Rear wheel bearing removal

Rear wheel bearing removal

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adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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Well I've got around to replacing one of the wheel beariungs on the 350i. Problem is how to get the bearing shell out - I suppose I'll have to have it pressed out.

Does the man with the press need to press on the minute parts of the bearing shell visible in the cut-aways (see arrows)? Or can he just press against the remaining bearing and hope that the ball bearings cope with it?


rev-erend

21,408 posts

284 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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Looks scary to me..

Sigorey Weaver and the Alien close behind with drippinn' jaws.

Or Mike B and Dicky Mint after many beers...

Roger McLittriss

493 posts

254 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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Yes. To both questions, though you may end up popping the inner race and balls out (ooer) if it's really worn. If you're lucky you can just drift it out with a punch through the cutaways. Try putting the hub carrier in the oven for an hour at 120 degrees first. Of course SWMBO will hate you for it, so don't mention my name.
It might come out easier if it's the fabricated hub carrier rather than the early cast alloy tyoe.

Mr Tank

5,797 posts

275 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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Adam

Replaced both my rear bearings recently and I used a drift to remove them with out to much trouble! Your lucky to have the two cut out's that will make it even easier!

Andy

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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I did give it a good whacking in the barn and also had a go with the vice (it's a big 'un, big egough to crush "Alien"'s head in ;^)
but it didn't budge. I might have a go with the oven but it's roast dinner day tomorrow so I'm sure we don't want greasy smells in it!

Of course the whole thng is too big for the oven so presumably you just leave the door ajar?

ed_crouch

1,169 posts

242 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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Violence sometimes works, but more often than not it'll need a press. About 10 tonnes should do it. I say that as thats the amount of force it took to remove an Audi A4 front wheel bearing, which is a similar size and a press fit.

If it still doesnt want to move, violence whilst under 10 tonnes is an option!

Ed.

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Sunday 19th October 2008
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I'm going to use heat on it this afternoon.

While I'm on the subject what's the best sort of grease to use?

leorest

2,346 posts

239 months

Sunday 19th October 2008
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Castrol LMX is what I use on all bearings.

adam quantrill

Original Poster:

11,538 posts

242 months

Sunday 19th October 2008
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Cool - I have some castrol LM handy.

Well the heat seemed to do the trick - I played a blowtortch on the hub carrier for abou 10 mins while pressing with the vice.

There was a 'ding' and the bearing shell moved a bit, and after about a half hour it was out resonably far so I used my "adjusting tool" (16lb sledgehammer) to knock it out the rest of the way.

However, disaster struck pressing the new bearing in, my indestructable vice went 'ding' and one of the jaws fell off! So it's in but needs another 15mm to finish it. Time for the professionals!

ed_crouch

1,169 posts

242 months

Sunday 19th October 2008
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I did that with a UJ. Broke a 6 inch bench vice. Buggrit.


rev-erend

21,408 posts

284 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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I did that to a vice too .. but fixed it by welding it back together..

Welding cast was spectacular .. like being in a foundry smile

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

213 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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I know im a bit far, but If you want to bring over you can use my 10Ton press.

Leigh

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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THanks for the offer Leigh - I have a friend who's an aircraft engineer and he finished it off this morning.

Yeah the vice might have to be welded - but can you MIG weld cast? Last time I tried it, it wan't very strong.

rev-erend

21,408 posts

284 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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I used arc for the vice using special rods for cast..

cantus

922 posts

252 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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I started with some big screwdrivers (didn't work out). After a couple of hours I used a heavy steel bar shaped to fit between the two gaps. Hammered it down (incl. a lot of swearing) with a two-pound hammer.......that worked.

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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I just got it back from my friendly engineer, he said it needed two people to work the fly press to get it fully in!

However they used the old bearing shell which has been turned so it doesn't stick in the 'ole. So if anyone else needs to do this job, let me know and I can lend out the old shell for the pressing-in part of it.

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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D'oh! Now the other side has gone (causing only my 3rd tow-truck call-out in 15 years of wedging). At least I have practice though.

At the angle the wheel is sitting I would guess that all the oil seals are trashed this time, luckily I found an extra one recently. I'm on the trail of extra seals in case anyone is interested.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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adam quantrill said:
Well I've got around to replacing one of the wheel beariungs on the 350i. Problem is how to get the bearing shell out - I suppose I'll have to have it pressed out.

Does the man with the press need to press on the minute parts of the bearing shell visible in the cut-aways (see arrows)? Or can he just press against the remaining bearing and hope that the ball bearings cope with it?

I've made a tool that fits into the cut out's that you can then press against to help push them out. Still required 7 Ton to push it out and 8 ton to push it back in again.

Should you push them back in dry or use some kind of lube.

Wedg1e

26,799 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
Should you push them back in dry or use some kind of lube.
Should be dry really. I'd warm up the carrier in the oven, cool the bearing in the freezer and it'd probably go back in with hand pressure biggrin

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Wedg1e said:
Should be dry really. I'd warm up the carrier in the oven, cool the bearing in the freezer and it'd probably go back in with hand pressure biggrin
They at the Barn, so no access to a fridge or oven, plus it trailing arm, so don't think it will fit.