How long will spares last
How long will spares last
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zippy500

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1,883 posts

295 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Was wondering how long the stock of spares will last us. I know interested parties have bought up bits from teh factory and we have the likes of Douglas Valley selling salvaged goodies.
But surley the spares wont last for that long?

Can imagine a whole lot of cars being sold in the next few years otherwise.

Anyone know any stats?

WorAl

10,877 posts

214 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Shouldnt be too hard to get hold of spares, they're mainly from big manufacturers like ford and im pretty sure other components will be able to be manipulated to fit if certain parts dont get made any more.

Also the body parts are all fibre glass so a good repair shop should be able to sort the bodies out for you....

SI-PEN

1,009 posts

263 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Parts supply is subcontracted to Multipart - shouldn't ever be a problem with most items if there is a demand.

heightswitch

6,322 posts

276 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Why worry?

Granturas and Vixens are still on the road?

Whilst some people may be deluded into believing the exotica tag that the newer cars have, the old adage still apply's.

The cars are essentially an up ended tower crane with a placcy body on top.

Its all low tech stuff with the exception of perhaps some of the engine castings. It can all be made. Its just a question of how much like minded proper enthusiasts are willing to pay.

Doubtless TVR's as well as all other collectors cars will go through the "banger" phase where the fair weather enthusiast will bail out. The corner will turn and parts will then be made by enthusiasts who want to keep them on the road.

N.

Mr.Chips

1,220 posts

240 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Don't panic guys! We're lucky because we have the Multipart side of things together with all the independents and the various TVR dedicated breakers, so I don't see spare parts as being a major issue. Don't forget, the original Bugatti company stopped years ago and many of the cars they made are not only still running, but they are highly prized and very valuable. Specialist engineers will always exist to make parts if and when we need them, OK the cost will increase, but we will still be able to keep our cars running.

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

234 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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SI-PEN said:
Parts supply is subcontracted to Multipart - shouldn't ever be a problem with most items if there is a demand.
I was told the following by the manager of a TVR spares department who deals with Multipart.

Multipart were very unhappy with the deal they have done with TVR.

They entered the contract on the understanding that TVR would be back in production.

Also, a sizable dealer network would be appointed, here and in the USA. These dealers would be contracted to hold sizable stocks of TVR parts supplied by Multipart.

Multipart has never intended to supply small quantities to individuals and sees no future profit in doing so.

The comment was that Multipart were only interested in putting stuff in boxes, if he told them exactly what he wanted and they had it in stock.

There was no interest in obtaining any part that wasn’t in stock. If they did receive an order for an out of stock part, they would just file it as ‘back order’ until they had enough orders for the same part to obtain significant discount from the original maker. So, even if you ordered something that was freely available from stock at your local Ford dealer, you would be on back order until say fifty owners had ordered one from them.

BIG DUNC

1,919 posts

249 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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At the end of the day, the parts that are in demand will remain in supply.

If lots of TVR owners all want part X, someone will be able to sell it to you. That someone could be multipart, or the original manufacturer, or a pattern part maker, or a specialist supplier that recognises the demand and gets a batch made up.

The parts that become difficult to get will be those that are not essential to run the car (bits of non essential trim etc).

If its not essential, then a lot less people will buy it, and the cost to supply small numbers will go up, and then less people buy it.....

STEV8E

635 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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heightswitch said:
Why worry?

Granturas and Vixens are still on the road?

Whilst some people may be deluded into believing the exotica tag that the newer cars have, the old adage still apply's.

The cars are essentially an up ended tower crane with a placcy body on top.

Its all low tech stuff with the exception of perhaps some of the engine castings. It can all be made. Its just a question of how much like minded proper enthusiasts are willing to pay.

Doubtless TVR's as well as all other collectors cars will go through the "banger" phase where the fair weather enthusiast will bail out. The corner will turn and parts will then be made by enthusiasts who want to keep them on the road.

N.
Succinct as ever Neil, I am becoming a fan hehe

Graham

16,380 posts

310 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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TBH you've probably got more chance of finding a unique TVR part in 10 years time than you have for a 10 year old ford... people will pay for difficult to get tvr bits for they type of car it is so specialists will make them as there will be a bit of profit in them...


As long as there is one car left body moulds can be made unlike a steel car as well.. but then again you can still get pattern parts for a frogeye sprite..

97octane

2,203 posts

249 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Up-ended tower crane with a plastic body? Brilliant!
Have one rofl

JR

14,332 posts

284 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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The difficult bits will be things like windsrceens. Although engine blocks would be pricey to cast the number of written off cars should ensure a ready supply for many, many years. Then you could always fit a SBC...

heightswitch

6,322 posts

276 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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JR said:
The difficult bits will be things like windsrceens. Although engine blocks would be pricey to cast the number of written off cars should ensure a ready supply for many, many years. Then you could always fit a SBC...
Windscreens are easy and relatively cheap on batch.

A couple of years ago a group of us M and Pre M enthusiasts clubbed together and had finewire heated front screens made. These ended up costing an extortionate..... £180 each smile I ordered 2.

Everything on the pre T cars is easy to make or buy. The Speed 6 engine could become problematic in the future by virtue of the Inevitable decrease in numbers and therefore much smaller market for small batch production relative to tooling costs. This however will just bring LS etc conversions more to the fore to keep the cars on the roads.

Its only money though and some poor hapless aflicted souls like me will no doubt re-tool and make some batch parts.

It doesn't really matter that TVR are no more because the hardcore enthusiast will always keep the name alive. This is never a barrier to car resto. look at all the british classics running about that have been out of production for 40 plus years.

N.

Hoover.

5,993 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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You would be surprised how cheaply you can things made down your local engineering/tooling shop........ I think the place I've used a few times takes pity on me thumbup to the old boy

Derek Smith

49,210 posts

274 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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heightswitch said:
Everything on the pre T cars is easy to make or buy. The Speed 6 engine could become problematic in the future by virtue of the Inevitable decrease in numbers and therefore much smaller market for small batch production relative to tooling costs. This however will just bring LS etc conversions more to the fore to keep the cars on the roads.
The only real problem with the Speed 6 engine is the block. Everything else is available, and in most cases you can get better quality at the same price. Even the pod is repairable and as prices drop and the cars come into less experienced hands, there will be more s/h spares available.

The car is quite simple, every bit as simple as, say, the M was in its day.

I was chatting to a dealer who reckoned that he could 'sort out' the dash electronics and put in a couple of 'decent' dials (ones with numbers on no doubt) but it wasn't worth it becasue repairs were so cheap. As for engines, he told me that someone was fitting a s/h BMW M straight 6 in a Tuscan at the same cost as a Sp6 rebuild. Has anyone got any info on this?

There were around 2,500 T cars (including the Cerb) so that's a fair number for batches.

The s/h price of a Sp6 engine in good condition goes a long way to paying for an LS conversion if that's your bag.

kevin63

4,661 posts

279 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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A Cerbera is around with a BMW M3 engine in it, would not be my choice, but it was successful, but the car has now moved down South I believe.

Grodecki

436 posts

210 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I'm glad to hear the positive opinions; a TVR is something I could only realistically think about in 5 or so years; and I'm concerned that by that time, if I am still interested, the cars will be virtually unmaintainable...