MTX 75 Gearbox

[Nicksy]

Is there any difference in the MTX75 Gearbox. Gear ratios, bell housing etc or are they all the same?
I have decided to do the LSD upgrade so I want to buy a new box and get the gears shot peened.

I have thought about a Six Speed conversion, has anyone attempted it for themselves? was it a ball ache? what sorts of cost was it?

Nicksy

[peterguk V6 KWK]

Nicksy said:

I have thought about a Six Speed conversion, has anyone attempted it for themselves? was it a ball ache? what sorts of cost was it?

Nicksy

I'm doing it as part of my upgrade. As i understand it, lower wishbone, dent in fuel tank helps, new gear cable set up..

[Nicksy]

peterguk V6 KWK said:

Nicksy said:

I have thought about a Six Speed conversion, has anyone attempted it for themselves? was it a ball ache? what sorts of cost was it?

Nicksy

I'm doing it as part of my upgrade. As i understand it, lower wishbone, dent in fuel tank helps, new gear cable set up..

Have you had any costs on the parts yet, wishbone and gear linkage.

Nicksy

[peterguk V6 KWK]

Wishbone about £130, although the 5 speed wishbone can be modified to fit.

Gear linkage kit, i had a few kits made using an original kit as a master, so have a few in stock.

[Mike Tuckwood]

peterguk V6 KWK said:

Gear linkage kit, i had a few kits made using an original kit as a master, so have a few in stock.

Hmm, that's something we can talk about when you come down Peter?


Mike.

[NobleGuy]

peterguk V6 KWK said:

...dent in fuel tank helps...

Sounds like a job for me.

peterguk V6 KWK said:

Wishbone about £130, although the 5 speed wishbone can be modified to fit.

Is that modified, or 'modified'?

[Nicksy]

Sorry chaps but does anyone know the answer to the first question?

"Is there any difference in the MTX75 Gearbox. Gear ratios, bell housing etc or are they all the same?"

Thanks for your help

Nicksy

[mgbond]

Considering that in another post it was mentioned that we can't get the MTX75 anymore (New), I to would like to know if there is any difference as the box has been fitted in many escorts fromt he early 90's.

Might want to take a spare with me to OZ so wouldn't mind knowing what Fords ours were fitted to or if it matters?

Bondy

[Lakelord]

mgbond said:

Considering that in another post it was mentioned that we can't get the MTX75 anymore (New), I to would like to know if there is any difference as the box has been fitted in many escorts fromt he early 90's.

Might want to take a spare with me to OZ so wouldn't mind knowing what Fords ours were fitted to or if it matters?

Bondy

Martin, don't know if there are variations of the MTX75 however the gearboxman tells me the Pt No is 1206944 if that helps?

[mgbond]

Lakelord said:

mgbond said:

Considering that in another post it was mentioned that we can't get the MTX75 anymore (New), I to would like to know if there is any difference as the box has been fitted in many escorts fromt he early 90's.

Might want to take a spare with me to OZ so wouldn't mind knowing what Fords ours were fitted to or if it matters?

Bondy

Martin, don't know if there are variations of the MTX75 however the gearboxman tells me the Pt No is 1206944 if that helps?

Cool, if its not on Noble parts it soon will be.

Bondy

[GTO400]

New MTX 75 on Ebay - 230333318045

[Richie350]

The MTX-75 gearbox used by Noble was not modified apart from LSD on later cars, Its simply a standard Ford gearbox and easily recondioned by any gearbox specialist for a few hundred of your hard earned pounds. It is true that Ford no longer manufacture the MTX-75 but they do still stock all the internal components required to recondition/repair. DONT BE FOOLED in thinking that the 6 speed gearbox in any more reliable than the 5 speed.

[Richie350]

FYI

The MTX-75 was fitted to the following Ford cars

Escort mk5/6 130ps
Escort mk5/6 RS2000
Mondeo
Focus 1.8D
Focus 2.0
Focus RS

[TuxMan]

Rich , watching the one on e-bay !!!

[mgbond]

Richie350 said:

FYI

The MTX-75 was fitted to the following Ford cars

Escort mk5/6 130ps
Escort mk5/6 RS2000
Mondeo
Focus 1.8D
Focus 2.0
Focus RS

There are many variation to the MTX 75 box so I'm told by ford. This is the info I got from a very knowledgeable from ford parts uk.

Ford MTX75 Part Number 1206944.This Box was only fitted on the very first of the MK3 Mondeo Up to 15-10-2000

Apparently this is now obsolete and the replacement is P/No 1232410. fitted to the Mondeo From: 15-08-2000> With a 3.82 Ratio

Both part numbers are now Obsolete


Bondy

[andygtt]

TuxMan said:

Rich , watching the one on e-bay !!!

I'm bidding on it LOL

[Lakelord]

I'm not convinced this is the right one. I've been looking into this subject extensively of late and as Bondy says above, the MTX75 variants that will work in the Noble are Finis Codes 1206944 or 1232410. The former part can be supplied by Ford for £954 + £200 (surcharge - refunded when you return your existing box plus the good old VAT) however on a back order basis. No commitment as to how long this could take.
I emailed the eBay seller to verify Pt Nos and he told me the info on the box was: Blue Label XS4R-7201-DB08.00 19.52.34D2M2A Casing, 97ZT-7F096N5LUA. Green Lable, P97ZT 7002 GAW14288 C1.
I don't recognise any of those numbers so suspect it's another variant which will have different gear ratios and final drive etc.
For further info, the ratios you are looking for in the 5 spd are
1st 3.42
2nd 2.14
3rd 1.48
4th 1.11
5th 0.85
F/Drive 3.82

HTH

[spraysystems]

i have the same box in my m12,differences are the bellhousing and slightly different ratios,and the car drives a1 as it should!

[Duke Thrust]

peterguk V6 KWK said:

Wishbone about £130, although the 5 speed wishbone can be modified to fit.

Gear linkage kit, i had a few kits made using an original kit as a master, so have a few in stock.

Peter YHM