996 Brake discs and pads
Discussion
A few months old, but a good starting point for a few phonecalls 
http://www.porscheclubgb.org/clientftp/Register/99...
http://www.porscheclubgb.org/clientftp/Register/99...
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
For my 2001 C4 tip.
I'm right in saying genuine stuff is made by Textar, right?
Where's the best / cheapest place to buy a set of these?
Ta.
Take it to Jon Mitchel he did my fronts 6 weeks ago and I wish he had done the rears too 4 weeks back then I would not have got shafted by the OPC.I'm right in saying genuine stuff is made by Textar, right?
Where's the best / cheapest place to buy a set of these?
Ta.
woogie said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
For my 2001 C4 tip.
I'm right in saying genuine stuff is made by Textar, right?
Where's the best / cheapest place to buy a set of these?
Ta.
Take it to Jon Mitchel he did my fronts 6 weeks ago and I wish he had done the rears too 4 weeks back then I would not have got shafted by the OPC.I'm right in saying genuine stuff is made by Textar, right?
Where's the best / cheapest place to buy a set of these?
Ta.
you should try: http://partsforporsche.co.uk/
or: www.eurocarparts.com and get Sebro discs and Textar pads.
or: www.eurocarparts.com and get Sebro discs and Textar pads.
Orangecurry said:
A few months old, but a good starting point for a few phonecalls
http://www.porscheclubgb.org/clientftp/Register/99...
I thought the OEM discs were SEBRO, but the price difference at Eurocarparts would suggest not. Who make the OEM then?http://www.porscheclubgb.org/clientftp/Register/99...
Orangecurry said:
A few months old, but a good starting point for a few phonecalls
http://www.porscheclubgb.org/clientftp/Register/99...
Way out of date...............................http://www.porscheclubgb.org/clientftp/Register/99...
This could be worth further investigation:
Brake Pads and Brake Disc Package Porsche 996 1997-04
Code: BRAKEKIT996
This Package Includes:
2 x Brake Disc
1 set x Textar Brake Pads
2 x Brake wear sensors
+ Brake pad dampering shims
Available for Front or Rear.
Standard Replacment
Fits:
Porsche 996 C2/4 1997-04
Options
Brake Pads & Disc Kit
£199.99
http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_911_-cma81-cmo1...
Brake Pads and Brake Disc Package Porsche 996 1997-04
Code: BRAKEKIT996
This Package Includes:
2 x Brake Disc
1 set x Textar Brake Pads
2 x Brake wear sensors
+ Brake pad dampering shims
Available for Front or Rear.
Standard Replacment
Fits:
Porsche 996 C2/4 1997-04
Options
Brake Pads & Disc Kit
£199.99
http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_911_-cma81-cmo1...
Ok guys, hope this helps clear up a few things
Sebro are not OEM suppliers, they are a German company whos products are of great quality, no problems what so ever. Their discs are painted like the Genuine Porsche discs that are mainly made by Brembo
GSF do not sell Sebro, they sell Zimmerman, Zimmerman are not OEM, they are a Germany company and their products are good too although the discs are not painted
Textar are the makers of pretty much all brake pads for Porsche in the last 20 years. 99% of Porsche pads will have Textar stamped on the back along with a Porsche part number. If you buy Textar pads in Textar boxes they will be the exact same part just without the Porsche part number on them
Pagid and ATE have made pads for Porsche over their lifetime, so in theory they are OEM
HTH
Sebro are not OEM suppliers, they are a German company whos products are of great quality, no problems what so ever. Their discs are painted like the Genuine Porsche discs that are mainly made by Brembo
GSF do not sell Sebro, they sell Zimmerman, Zimmerman are not OEM, they are a Germany company and their products are good too although the discs are not painted
Textar are the makers of pretty much all brake pads for Porsche in the last 20 years. 99% of Porsche pads will have Textar stamped on the back along with a Porsche part number. If you buy Textar pads in Textar boxes they will be the exact same part just without the Porsche part number on them
Pagid and ATE have made pads for Porsche over their lifetime, so in theory they are OEM
HTH
AsifG said:
This could be worth further investigation:
Brake Pads and Brake Disc Package Porsche 996 1997-04
Code: BRAKEKIT996
This Package Includes:
2 x Brake Disc
1 set x Textar Brake Pads
2 x Brake wear sensors
+ Brake pad dampering shims
Available for Front or Rear.
Standard Replacment
Fits:
Porsche 996 C2/4 1997-04
Options
Brake Pads & Disc Kit
£199.99
http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_911_-cma81-cmo1...
Yep. dont forget you will need shims and sensors...............plenty of companies doing the complete package nowBrake Pads and Brake Disc Package Porsche 996 1997-04
Code: BRAKEKIT996
This Package Includes:
2 x Brake Disc
1 set x Textar Brake Pads
2 x Brake wear sensors
+ Brake pad dampering shims
Available for Front or Rear.
Standard Replacment
Fits:
Porsche 996 C2/4 1997-04
Options
Brake Pads & Disc Kit
£199.99
http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_911_-cma81-cmo1...
Hi Ladies and gents,
I am having to have my discs and pads replaced on my 2003 911 996 twin turbo and OPC told me at their Winter car clinic that I have 80% wear. They quoted some £780 for the front and around £ 581 front, this includes the nasty VAT. They then have the cheek to say " free fit" lol. I can source the parts, either Pagid or genuine Porsche for around £500 give or take a quid or two. I used to think OPC were cool but this is a liberty, they then tell me my tip sump needs a new gasket, part price £20, fitting £890 !!.
I have gone to euro car parts and they will provide the parts and I have a good bloke to fit the parts in Bristol called Porsche prologic. I wanted to ask if you guys think the products I mention are good to use and if I go with Pagid then doesn't it make sense to use Pagid pads ?
These car clinics at OPC always put the fear of God into me as they always find work, I suppose I shouldn;t be surprised but for them to find 5k of work when I feel the car drives perfectly well is beyond me, they expect the car to be like brand new and so quote to make it like new but at their inflated prices. Small wonder they are scrabbling for work with a hourly rate of £170 ish.
Thanks in advance
Jools
I am having to have my discs and pads replaced on my 2003 911 996 twin turbo and OPC told me at their Winter car clinic that I have 80% wear. They quoted some £780 for the front and around £ 581 front, this includes the nasty VAT. They then have the cheek to say " free fit" lol. I can source the parts, either Pagid or genuine Porsche for around £500 give or take a quid or two. I used to think OPC were cool but this is a liberty, they then tell me my tip sump needs a new gasket, part price £20, fitting £890 !!.
I have gone to euro car parts and they will provide the parts and I have a good bloke to fit the parts in Bristol called Porsche prologic. I wanted to ask if you guys think the products I mention are good to use and if I go with Pagid then doesn't it make sense to use Pagid pads ?
These car clinics at OPC always put the fear of God into me as they always find work, I suppose I shouldn;t be surprised but for them to find 5k of work when I feel the car drives perfectly well is beyond me, they expect the car to be like brand new and so quote to make it like new but at their inflated prices. Small wonder they are scrabbling for work with a hourly rate of £170 ish.
Thanks in advance
Jools
jools,
purely for my own interest, as an owner do you have the car serviced regularly when its schedule arrives and do what, if anything, is needed at this time.
reason being is that there are times when you just get unlucky and a bunch of bits pop and bite you on the rear but more often than not people scrimp, they push servicing back a bit, leave jobs until the next time and then manage to forget they have done this and fall over when they are given a massive estimate.
i was just curious if you were former or latter or a third situation.
first services of a new owner are often like this as the old one puts it all off for the next person quite often.
given that porsche have some of the best brakes in the business im not sure id want to go chucking on any old things here. perhaps you could look at performance upgrade parts instead. you might not save money but you may well get what you feel to be improved value and most definately better response for the same.
purely for my own interest, as an owner do you have the car serviced regularly when its schedule arrives and do what, if anything, is needed at this time.
reason being is that there are times when you just get unlucky and a bunch of bits pop and bite you on the rear but more often than not people scrimp, they push servicing back a bit, leave jobs until the next time and then manage to forget they have done this and fall over when they are given a massive estimate.
i was just curious if you were former or latter or a third situation.
first services of a new owner are often like this as the old one puts it all off for the next person quite often.
given that porsche have some of the best brakes in the business im not sure id want to go chucking on any old things here. perhaps you could look at performance upgrade parts instead. you might not save money but you may well get what you feel to be improved value and most definately better response for the same.
Could be worth a call to Alyn at AS Performance - he has sourced Porsche parts in the past, they come in Porsche boxes and they are MUCH cheaper than the OPC.
http://asperformance.com/
http://asperformance.com/
You would need the shims, sensors & bolts & pins to do the job right.
Pagid pads for the front will not have the anti vibration weights like the Porsche ones do, the rears will do, their discs are fine
The complete package of front and rear discs, correct pads, shims & sensors are about £550 + vat, add to that pin kits and caliper bolts, another £74 (Im sure will include them)
Pagid pads for the front will not have the anti vibration weights like the Porsche ones do, the rears will do, their discs are fine
The complete package of front and rear discs, correct pads, shims & sensors are about £550 + vat, add to that pin kits and caliper bolts, another £74 (Im sure will include them)
Fioran0 ,
I DO service when times aare up and also change oil every 3,000 myself BUT in this case you are spot on in what you say, this IS the first time I have had to have work since I bought it so am a little disappointed to find the brakes so worn as they passed MOT and so I thought felt ok. The other things are niggly stuff that truly doesn;t need doing, such as climate control unit apparently not working right but seems ok to me, then lip spolier and bumper so say need an estimate when the lip spoiler is just a tiny bit bent at the centre from a grounding, this could be sorted by just sticking mole grips on it for a short period. The OPC really do look for any small item. The tip sump gasket ? well that is case in point. pat £20 then the work nearly £900.
The car feels good, is very quick and I am getting some carrera classic 19's with Bridgestone potenzas on them to be sorted in a week or so, I need a geo set up sorted with the 18's on before I fit the 19's.
God to know about the anti vibration stuff though. I'll stick to pagid discs but will have textar pads and add ons now, thanks people.
I DO service when times aare up and also change oil every 3,000 myself BUT in this case you are spot on in what you say, this IS the first time I have had to have work since I bought it so am a little disappointed to find the brakes so worn as they passed MOT and so I thought felt ok. The other things are niggly stuff that truly doesn;t need doing, such as climate control unit apparently not working right but seems ok to me, then lip spolier and bumper so say need an estimate when the lip spoiler is just a tiny bit bent at the centre from a grounding, this could be sorted by just sticking mole grips on it for a short period. The OPC really do look for any small item. The tip sump gasket ? well that is case in point. pat £20 then the work nearly £900.
The car feels good, is very quick and I am getting some carrera classic 19's with Bridgestone potenzas on them to be sorted in a week or so, I need a geo set up sorted with the 18's on before I fit the 19's.
God to know about the anti vibration stuff though. I'll stick to pagid discs but will have textar pads and add ons now, thanks people.
Hang on. They are 80% worn. They are not worn out. Say you get 20,000 miles out of a set of brakes (you probably get more) then in simplistic term you have 4,000 miles left. Some people don't cover that in a year in their cars.
They is a warning light that will activate when the pads are low. If this hasn't activated then the pads are fine. So the 80% probably is in relation to disc thickness wear.
An MOT won't flag up this up unless the pads were down to the metal.
Just trying to put a bit of perspective on it for you.
They is a warning light that will activate when the pads are low. If this hasn't activated then the pads are fine. So the 80% probably is in relation to disc thickness wear.
An MOT won't flag up this up unless the pads were down to the metal.
Just trying to put a bit of perspective on it for you.
Gez,
Thank you mate, that is the most sensible and peace keeping post I have read. You are, of course, right.
OPC look for work, it's obvious they are suffering low work schedules and have high overheads so will try to get work done before it's needed. As far as I can see it's the tip sump leak that needs immediate attention and a geo set up because of the uneven tyre wear, the brakes can wait for sure after reading your post.
Really, thanks. I do get wound up and worry when I hear such stuff from the OPC, my indy mechanic has an approach very similar to yours and he has saved me thousands. I am very lucky to have met him.
Jools
Thank you mate, that is the most sensible and peace keeping post I have read. You are, of course, right.
OPC look for work, it's obvious they are suffering low work schedules and have high overheads so will try to get work done before it's needed. As far as I can see it's the tip sump leak that needs immediate attention and a geo set up because of the uneven tyre wear, the brakes can wait for sure after reading your post.
Really, thanks. I do get wound up and worry when I hear such stuff from the OPC, my indy mechanic has an approach very similar to yours and he has saved me thousands. I am very lucky to have met him.
Jools
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