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Utterly Clueless

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Right then, After spending a fair amount on cleaning stuffs for the car I decided today would be a good day to actually get the cleaning polishing and waxing completed (ive only ever managed to clean it and get the polish down before the heavens opened and made a mess of everyhing. After Finally getting it all done I am APPAULED at the paintowrk on my car. Its shocking. The whole car is covered in orange peel. There are about 200 (no joke) chips on the bonnet, scratches from cats (the furry bastids, they should be set on fire and thrown infront of a bus) on the bonnet and roof, Theres the damage to the NS front wing from my altercation with dads car in my early weeks of driving. theres rust spots everywhere, scratches on almost every panel. Basically the cleaner it is the worse it looks.

Now, I've been thinking. How much would it cost for a full respray of the car?? If there something on every panel that needs attention then surely it cant cost much more to just get the whole things repainted.

So here's my questions.

How much is a full respray from a reputable body shop going to cost?
And Where in the wrexham/chester area (or a radius of 50miles from wrexham) would I find a GOOD/BRILLIANT painting place?

I understand the cost of the respray would be close to the value of the car.

The interior of the car is immaculate so a decent outer would increase the value of the car margionally which is one small factor.

So please i BEG of you no 'its st dont bother' type comments. i just want recomendations of places and maybe a rough guestimate of the cost and i will make the decision of if i go a head of not myself.

this isnt like my other ideas o adding pointless tat to the car, this is something that WILL improve the car.

Thanks

Thom


SAGPACK

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Utterly Clueless said:
Right then, After spending a fair amount on cleaning stuffs for the car I decided today would be a good day to actually get the cleaning polishing and waxing completed (ive only ever managed to clean it and get the polish down before the heavens opened and made a mess of everyhing. After Finally getting it all done I am APPAULED at the paintowrk on my car. Its shocking. The whole car is covered in orange peel. There are about 200 (no joke) chips on the bonnet, scratches from cats (the furry bastids, they should be set on fire and thrown infront of a bus) on the bonnet and roof, Theres the damage to the NS front wing from my altercation with dads car in my early weeks of driving. theres rust spots everywhere, scratches on almost every panel. Basically the cleaner it is the worse it looks.

Now, I've been thinking. How much would it cost for a full respray of the car?? If there something on every panel that needs attention then surely it cant cost much more to just get the whole things repainted.

So here's my questions.

How much is a full respray from a reputable body shop going to cost?
And Where in the wrexham/chester area (or a radius of 50miles from wrexham) would I find a GOOD/BRILLIANT painting place?

I understand the cost of the respray would be close to the value of the car.

The interior of the car is immaculate so a decent outer would increase the value of the car margionally which is one small factor.

So please i BEG of you no 'its st dont bother' type comments. i just want recomendations of places and maybe a rough guestimate of the cost and i will make the decision of if i go a head of not myself.

this isnt like my other ideas o adding pointless tat to the car, this is something that WILL improve the car.

Thanks

Thom
I'm not in your neck of the woods but I got a quote yesterday to fully respray a 2006 997 C4S cab for a nats wotsit under £4400.00 inc VAT...hope that helps.

Utterly Clueless

Original Poster:

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SAGPACK said:
Utterly Clueless said:
Right then, After spending a fair amount on cleaning stuffs for the car I decided today would be a good day to actually get the cleaning polishing and waxing completed (ive only ever managed to clean it and get the polish down before the heavens opened and made a mess of everyhing. After Finally getting it all done I am APPAULED at the paintowrk on my car. Its shocking. The whole car is covered in orange peel. There are about 200 (no joke) chips on the bonnet, scratches from cats (the furry bastids, they should be set on fire and thrown infront of a bus) on the bonnet and roof, Theres the damage to the NS front wing from my altercation with dads car in my early weeks of driving. theres rust spots everywhere, scratches on almost every panel. Basically the cleaner it is the worse it looks.

Now, I've been thinking. How much would it cost for a full respray of the car?? If there something on every panel that needs attention then surely it cant cost much more to just get the whole things repainted.

So here's my questions.

How much is a full respray from a reputable body shop going to cost?
And Where in the wrexham/chester area (or a radius of 50miles from wrexham) would I find a GOOD/BRILLIANT painting place?

I understand the cost of the respray would be close to the value of the car.

The interior of the car is immaculate so a decent outer would increase the value of the car margionally which is one small factor.

So please i BEG of you no 'its st dont bother' type comments. i just want recomendations of places and maybe a rough guestimate of the cost and i will make the decision of if i go a head of not myself.

this isnt like my other ideas o adding pointless tat to the car, this is something that WILL improve the car.

Thanks

Thom
I'm not in your neck of the woods but I got a quote yesterday to fully respray a 2006 997 C4S cab for a nats wotsit under £4400.00 inc VAT...hope that helps.
OOOooooooo.....Thats maybe 2600 above what i was expecting.
I thought resprays were possible for arround 1-2k.

evidentally i need to do my homework.

OllieWinchester

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Seriously, don't bother.

I can't even be bothered to go into the ins and outs of why not, just don't bother.


wideload

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You can get them cheaper but its all to do with the quality of finish and how much of the work you are prepared to do yourself beforehand. For example you could probally get the re-spray done to a reasonable standard for under 2K as long as you repaired all of the damage on each pannel yourself, gave it the full prep yourself. Removed all the ancilary parts that need to be removed prior to the spraying yourself etc. oh and also were expecting the outer pannels to be done e.g. no inner wings, underside of bonnet, slam pannel etc....

If you were to do nothing yourself and expect all of the damage fixed you would be looking at well over 3K i would imagine
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Uhura_Fighter

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If you want a ball park figure then £2000 to £4000 for a pro job. That price will change depending on things like,
How much prep can you do? / will need doing by the paint shop
Colour/type of paint?
Level of finish?
Putting it back together? how much will you do?

You could get a re-spray done for several hundred if you do everything but paint it, but it would look sh... with poor paint and age very quickly IMO.



OllieWinchester

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wideload said:
If you were to do nothing yourself and expect all of the damage fixed you would be looking at well over 3K i would imagine
Bearing in mind, this is approximately 4x what the car is worth, I think this accurately illustrates why this idea is a non starter. It is not even a desirable model, so there is nothing to be gained from painting it.

Utterly Clueless

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cheers for that guys.

thanks for the honesty and none piss taking.

i guess i'll just pop to the local body shops and get some quotes on the major stuff like rust spots and bonnet.

Thanks again guys

Thom

Or i can hope for some scrote to come along and pour paint stripped over the whole car and get it done by my insurance, but a full respray would probably be enough to write my car off anyways. so lets hope that one doesnt happen.

Thom

OllieWinchester

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You need to avoid spending any money on the car if at all possible. If you spend £3-400 having the bonnet repainted, how much do you think that adds to the value of the car?

Seriously, how much?


Plus, then you have the issue of trying to get it done cheap, and a bodyshop trying to colour match faded 10yr old burgundy paint, and your car ending up looking like a patchwork quilt, and having spent £££ achieving it. Leave the thing alone....

discoman

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Why not look for someone breaking a golf similar to yours that is in decent condition and swap some panels over!

I had a similar period to yours with my 1st car and wanted to touch up rust etc and ended up badly fking up the bodywork and scrapping the car hehe

Edited by discoman on Sunday 12th April 00:50

Flanders.

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OllieWinchester said:
You need to avoid spending any money on the car if at all possible. If you spend £3-400 having the bonnet repainted, how much do you think that adds to the value of the car?

Seriously, how much?


Plus, then you have the issue of trying to get it done cheap, and a bodyshop trying to colour match faded 10yr old burgundy paint, and your car ending up looking like a patchwork quilt, and having spent £££ achieving it. Leave the thing alone....



To be fair, maybe the car means more to him than just its value as a machine? Personally I wouldn't bother doing the car, just put some effort into the small little bits of rust and what not and you should be sorted.

Utterly Clueless

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OllieWinchester said:
You need to avoid spending any money on the car if at all possible. If you spend £3-400 having the bonnet repainted, how much do you think that adds to the value of the car?

Seriously, how much?


Plus, then you have the issue of trying to get it done cheap, and a bodyshop trying to colour match faded 10yr old burgundy paint, and your car ending up looking like a patchwork quilt, and having spent £££ achieving it. Leave the thing alone....
Now this will sound soft, but here goes.

When I was still learning to drive I was rear ended by an arriva bus. Their own private repair company repaired and resprayed the boot/rear bumper for me (this was all done outside of the insurance company) and they matched the paint perfectly to the CURRENT colour of the car. You cant tell its been done.

I'm thinking of asking them (as i know the guy who runs the wrexham depot) who they use and then going to them as they did really good work, and as i know the main guy for the wrexham area he may be able to wiggle some sort of discount for me.

im happy to spend 400 if its gets the car looking better, even if it only increases its resale value by up to £50.

First of all im going to gather quotes and then really think hard on it.

Thanks for your advice though guys. Having learned from perious threads, i am going to take it all onboard and it will have an influence on what i do.

Thom

Flanders.

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Utterly Clueless said:
OllieWinchester said:
You need to avoid spending any money on the car if at all possible. If you spend £3-400 having the bonnet repainted, how much do you think that adds to the value of the car?

Seriously, how much?


Plus, then you have the issue of trying to get it done cheap, and a bodyshop trying to colour match faded 10yr old burgundy paint, and your car ending up looking like a patchwork quilt, and having spent £££ achieving it. Leave the thing alone....
Now this will sound soft, but here goes.

When I was still learning to drive I was rear ended by an arriva bus. Their own private repair company repaired and resprayed the boot/rear bumper for me (this was all done outside of the insurance company) and they matched the paint perfectly to the CURRENT colour of the car. You cant tell its been done.

I'm thinking of asking them (as i know the guy who runs the wrexham depot) who they use and then going to them as they did really good work, and as i know the main guy for the wrexham area he may be able to wiggle some sort of discount for me.

im happy to spend 400 if its gets the car looking better, even if it only increases its resale value by up to £50.

First of all im going to gather quotes and then really think hard on it.

Thanks for your advice though guys. Having learned from perious threads, i am going to take it all onboard and it will have an influence on what i do.

Thom


Try getting the paint detailled?

Utterly Clueless

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Also, just to clarify i WOULDNT be changing the cars colour, I have a preped wing for the car to replace the damaged one. All i would be wanting is an exterior respray. I should have explained that before.

What sort of monies would an outside only spray job cost? or am i still loking over 1k?

Thanks

Thom

Utterly Clueless

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Flanders. said:
Utterly Clueless said:
OllieWinchester said:
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Try getting the paint detailled?
Would a detailer sort things like rust spots?

This did cross my mind and i am a member od DW.com so i will ask people there for quotes, but i didnt think chips and rust was something their work covered.

Thom

Edited to correct unforgivable their.there mix-up, Someone shoot me

Edited by Utterly Clueless on Sunday 12th April 01:00

OllieWinchester

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shoot
HTH

stigmundfreud

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Thom its a painful experience watching you gain your experience. Olly speaks a lot of sense, can understand you wanting the car to look as good as possible but when you post threads like this and the self tapping screws for a strut brace its hard to tell if you are serious or utterly clueless.

Futuramic

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Utterly Clueless said:
Also, just to clarify i WOULDNT be changing the cars colour, I have a preped wing for the car to replace the damaged one. All i would be wanting is an exterior respray. I should have explained that before.

What sort of monies would an outside only spray job cost? or am i still loking over 1k?

Thanks

Thom
You're asking "How long is a piece of string?" with that question. A cheap blow over in the same colour would only be a few hundred, but that'll make it look worse. Maybe a bit shinier in the short term, but without proper prepping there really is no point. To put it into perspective I sorted out some small paint damage on my old Orion, and it took a day to prep and paint the rear wheel arches. It looked good when I'd finished, mind, but it entailed sanding, filling, masking, priming, stopping, re-priming, wet-flatting, re-priming and several topcoats before it looked any good. Once top-coated I rubbed it back again and repeated nearly the entire process.

Respraying costs are all in labour as the materials are relatively cheap. But you mention rust spots. These are usually a symptom of much more serious rot inside the car, they go from the inside out, so when rust is appearing on the panels it's pretty certain there will be some underneath. If I were you I'd chop the Golf in against something cheaper, whilst it still has a bit of value. I paid £250 for my daily car and it's the best I've ever had.

Utterly Clueless

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stigmundfreud said:
Thom its a painful experience watching you gain your experience. Olly speaks a lot of sense, can understand you wanting the car to look as good as possible but when you post threads like this and the self tapping screws for a strut brace its hard to tell if you are serious or utterly clueless.
Ok, allow me to clear my name a bit.

Self tappers for the strut brace was an honest question. It was asked as that was what came with the brace to fit it, it didnt seem right, so i asked.

This is also genuine, the car looks horrid with the current paint imperfections so if i could get them sorted it would be great. im not going to spend silly money but i am taking onboard the advice, hence me trying to find other alternatives. At the end of the day i want my car to loog good. not 'stick on tat' good, but just tidy. currently the paints the only thing letting it down.

I'll get some quotes to see what the cost of getting the major imperfections solved is but i wont hold my breath.

OllieWinchester

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Put it this way Thom. Most normal people, me included, would struggle to justify a half decent full respray on a car worth £5k. Trying to justify the sort of expenditure you are talking about even just for spraying the bonnet is basically financial hari kari. Either live with it as is, or get shot of it and get something betterdifferent.
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