RE: 321bhp VXR Goes Toe-To-Toe With Audi
Discussion
mitch78 said:
vz-r_dave said:
dorme said:
astra vxr is NOT quicker than the audi s3.
the s3 is 0-60 5.5s with 261bhp 258lb-ft.
the astra is 0-60 in 6.2 with 236bhp and 236lb-ft.
Would you like to point out where the VX-R is quicker please Dave?the s3 is 0-60 5.5s with 261bhp 258lb-ft.
the astra is 0-60 in 6.2 with 236bhp and 236lb-ft.
If you want a fast hatch get a Grand Cherokee SRT8 0-60 4.8 wet or dry with 4 adults a dog a fridge freezer in the back and a canoe
on the roof. Job done. There is no substitute for cubic inches !!!!!
vz-r_dave said:
mitch78 said:
vz-r_dave said:
dorme said:
astra vxr is NOT quicker than the audi s3.
the s3 is 0-60 5.5s with 261bhp 258lb-ft.
the astra is 0-60 in 6.2 with 236bhp and 236lb-ft.
Dorme, this is a car enthusiasts website. The least you want to do is start quoting 0-60 times as a refernce to how quick a car is. In gear times are what you should be quoting. I think you'd then be suprised at the VXR's pace.the s3 is 0-60 5.5s with 261bhp 258lb-ft.
the astra is 0-60 in 6.2 with 236bhp and 236lb-ft.
I stand corrected.
G0ldfysh said:
vz-r_dave said:
mitch78 said:
vz-r_dave said:
dorme said:
astra vxr is NOT quicker than the audi s3.
the s3 is 0-60 5.5s with 261bhp 258lb-ft.
the astra is 0-60 in 6.2 with 236bhp and 236lb-ft.
Dorme, this is a car enthusiasts website. The least you want to do is start quoting 0-60 times as a refernce to how quick a car is. In gear times are what you should be quoting. I think you'd then be suprised at the VXR's pace.the s3 is 0-60 5.5s with 261bhp 258lb-ft.
the astra is 0-60 in 6.2 with 236bhp and 236lb-ft.
I stand corrected.
Clivey said:
Dagnut said:
Interesting enough car for me anyway, but someone mentioned it will be RWD biased is this true? why would the article be mentioning torque steer if its RWD biased?
The only way I can compare them is this: "If I had "X" amount of money to purchase one, which would I choose?"If that number is £15k, I'll be looking at a used VXR. If that number is £25k, an S3. If it's £20k, I've honestly got a lot of thinking to do (about whether I want a new VXR with all the goodies, or an older S3 which probably isn't exactly how I want it)!
One thing though...the Astra VXRs residuals...actually, they were pretty damn good last time I checked the prices on AutoTrader!
CorsaScott said:
Or to throw a spanner in the works, a second hand Astra with some fettling done (LSD, exhaust, remap etc. etc.) then you'd have something that could swing for the S3
Yes, just what the torque steery beast needs; more bhp....And if we fettled with the S3? -We'd knock more lumps out of the gofastra wouldn't we?
I love the VXR but the S3 is the better car IMO.
vz-r_dave said:
dorme said:
astra vxr is NOT quicker than the audi s3.
the s3 is 0-60 5.5s with 261bhp 258lb-ft.
the astra is 0-60 in 6.2 with 236bhp and 236lb-ft.
Dorme, this is a car enthusiasts website. The least you want to do is start quoting 0-60 times as a refernce to how quick a car is. In gear times are what you should be quoting. I think you'd then be suprised at the VXR's pace.the s3 is 0-60 5.5s with 261bhp 258lb-ft.
the astra is 0-60 in 6.2 with 236bhp and 236lb-ft.
plus, the astra is crap *flame suit on*
G_T said:
Bloody hell that S3 has got some poke after 60.
As per someone elses post, where did you get that data? Tis tres useful.
Sorry, I don't know where it's from originally. It was posted by TheKirbyFake in a thread a while back, about the Focus RS, maybe we should ask him. At the time time it showed all the cars I was interested in comparing, so wasn't bothered about any updates, it would be useful though.As per someone elses post, where did you get that data? Tis tres useful.
Let's not forget, folks, that all these figures are only one aspect of performance motoring.
Yes the S3 is immensely quick in the midrange but it's a bit on the dull side imho.
Perhaps the simple, rwd, n/a pleasures of a 330i offer more to the enthusiast than either the S4 or Insignia VXR, even if it is 'slower'...
Yes the S3 is immensely quick in the midrange but it's a bit on the dull side imho.
Perhaps the simple, rwd, n/a pleasures of a 330i offer more to the enthusiast than either the S4 or Insignia VXR, even if it is 'slower'...
CorsaScott said:
Clivey said:
Dagnut said:
Interesting enough car for me anyway, but someone mentioned it will be RWD biased is this true? why would the article be mentioning torque steer if its RWD biased?
The only way I can compare them is this: "If I had "X" amount of money to purchase one, which would I choose?"If that number is £15k, I'll be looking at a used VXR. If that number is £25k, an S3. If it's £20k, I've honestly got a lot of thinking to do (about whether I want a new VXR with all the goodies, or an older S3 which probably isn't exactly how I want it)!
One thing though...the Astra VXRs residuals...actually, they were pretty damn good last time I checked the prices on AutoTrader!
Come to think of it a S3 sportback with remap would get my vote. Some call it boring some call it clinical... but add an extra 100 ponies and thats the last thing it is!
Munter said:
HughN said:
A £30K Vauxhall? Might as well write "I am a really good rep" on the side.
Unless it's the estate. The I would think it'll most likely have POLICE written on it. (As someone else suggested above)
What surprises me most in that table is just how slow they all are (apart from the Audi, in relation to their BHP/Torque??
Haven't got a clue about these modern hot hatches, but they must weigh a lot considering their acceleration (or lack of) That doesn't explain why the Audi is in aanother league though, I imagine.
Haven't got a clue about these modern hot hatches, but they must weigh a lot considering their acceleration (or lack of) That doesn't explain why the Audi is in aanother league though, I imagine.
mackie1 said:
I can only think that the S3 had the wick turned up a bit and the AWD traction helped aswell. I believe they can make an easy 300bhp with just a remap.
...or the others in the test aren't making what they're claiming, which seems more likely considering the Audi is where it should be performance wise for its BHP IMHO.mackie1 said:
The figures look about right to me if the others are standard and the S3 is putting out 280-300bhp.
As ALL S3s do in completely standard form. The manufacturer figures are low compared to actual output. Those that are forking out for a remap just to get pub-bragging headline figures are a little annoyed when they discover they've only gained 10-15bhp over the other guys at the dyno day in standard cars. EDIT: But we're supposed to be talking about the Cavalier, sorry, Insignia.
Edited by mitch78 on Thursday 16th April 22:46
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