RE: New Supercar Club Lets You Race At The 'Ring
Tuesday 21st April 2009
Drive at the 'Ring in someone else's carAfter the high profile launches and subsequent falls from grace of the Segrave Club and P1 International, you might have thought a supercar club would be the last place to invest your money in these harsh economic times.
Ascari Race Resort - access grantedRSA says members will be fully insured against damage, and all will receive at least half a days tuition in each car or when on a different track. Membership also gives you access to the Auto Lusso Supercar Club and the Classic Car Club. That means when not on track you can slip into a Maserati Gran Turismo, an Audi R8 or even a Jaguar XJ12 Coupe.
New Supercar Club Lets You Race At The 'Ring
Spa, the 'Ring and Ascari circuits on the menu for RS Academy club
Drive at the 'Ring in someone else's car
That hasn't stopped Rob Stanbury, formerly part of the P1 team, who has set up a new concept in supercar ownership. Members of his new club the RS Academy will be able to go to some of the best circuits in the world where the fleet of assembled cars can be taken to the limit.
The RS Academy will allow individuals, groups of friends or corporate members to drive on the Nurburgring, the renowned GP circuit Spa Francorchamps and the exclusive and privately-owned Ascari Race Resort near Marbella. Individuals can even use their time on track towards getting a racing license.
The fleet, which is owed entirely by the club, currently includes a Renault Megane R26.R, Caterham R500 Superlight, BMW M3 CSL, Porsche 997 GT3 RS, Lamborghini Superleggera and Radical SR3, and is projected to grow with the membership.
Ascari Race Resort - access granted
It's not for the penurious, though. Prices start from £17,495 plus a £1k joining fee.
Discussion
FFS not again. Another one for those starry eyed fools easily parted from their wonga 
I bet those that were scammed on one of these schemes and lost thousnads the last time will have one or two choice words to say about this one. If these schemes didn't work during good times then how the hell are they supposed to work now.
I smell something rotten and it's not my dogs ar5e!!
I bet those that were scammed on one of these schemes and lost thousnads the last time will have one or two choice words to say about this one. If these schemes didn't work during good times then how the hell are they supposed to work now.
I smell something rotten and it's not my dogs ar5e!!
I think P1's previous price of £15k in the current climate might have been a contributing factor to their demise if not the only factor, Just by offering the allowance of the Nurburgring using their cars and bumping the price up will probably make them go bump again.
Have they taken into the account that you normally only get a limited milage on these cars when you use them, the 1184mile round trip from their previous location in Middlewich will take you well over the quota of allowed milage. Putting your price up from your £1k joining fee, your £18k membership, the fuel to run the thing, then if your doing the Ring, you have your money per lap to pay, not to mention they'll probably be a fee for insurance or extra deposit if your going on the Ring.
QUOTE; The fleet currently includes a Renault Megane R26.R, Caterham R500 Superlight, BMW M3 CSL, Porsche 997 GT3 RS, Lamborghini Superleggera and Radical SR3, and is projected to grow with the membership.
Hmmmmmm, growing membership, so the more members they get, the more cars the'll buy.
I personally think its a waste of money and only a matter or time before they go bump again.
If thie idea was presented in the dragons den, having had a business go bankrupt once, will go south again......
Have they taken into the account that you normally only get a limited milage on these cars when you use them, the 1184mile round trip from their previous location in Middlewich will take you well over the quota of allowed milage. Putting your price up from your £1k joining fee, your £18k membership, the fuel to run the thing, then if your doing the Ring, you have your money per lap to pay, not to mention they'll probably be a fee for insurance or extra deposit if your going on the Ring.
QUOTE; The fleet currently includes a Renault Megane R26.R, Caterham R500 Superlight, BMW M3 CSL, Porsche 997 GT3 RS, Lamborghini Superleggera and Radical SR3, and is projected to grow with the membership.
Hmmmmmm, growing membership, so the more members they get, the more cars the'll buy.
I personally think its a waste of money and only a matter or time before they go bump again.
If thie idea was presented in the dragons den, having had a business go bankrupt once, will go south again......
I don't think mileage comes into it because, as I understand it, the cars are based at the tracks where you would drive them and the track mileage allowance is very adequate given how exhausting track driving is.
As regards the costs, the membership can be shared so they seem to be anticipating mates enjoying the experience together - you don't have to share the cars with your partner!
As regards the costs, the membership can be shared so they seem to be anticipating mates enjoying the experience together - you don't have to share the cars with your partner!
You can just see it now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20X7PNml_-Q
The website is awful.
White copy placed over a white wing of a Porsche - fatal design error!
Not user friendly.
End up with a crick in your neck reading it.
Lets face it anyone with that kind of money will be wanting something way more polished than that to buy into.
The web agency should be questioned over what they produced - maybe that was their brief.
Utterly awful.
Looks cheap.
In these times you need protection on your money going on a deposit for something like this - can they offer this?
Not for me even if I fancied it.
White copy placed over a white wing of a Porsche - fatal design error!
Not user friendly.
End up with a crick in your neck reading it.
Lets face it anyone with that kind of money will be wanting something way more polished than that to buy into.
The web agency should be questioned over what they produced - maybe that was their brief.
Utterly awful.
Looks cheap.
In these times you need protection on your money going on a deposit for something like this - can they offer this?
Not for me even if I fancied it.
Lundy Island is building a new circuit just like Spa and Murray walker is going to be Clerk of the Course.
P & O will be doing the ferrying and Shell are building the pits complex and supplying the fuel. Tiff Needell is the instructor and Mithril are offering Zondas Bugattis and Koenniggsegg-Uh WAZZAT? Sorry I don't remember anymore as I woke up at that point.
P & O will be doing the ferrying and Shell are building the pits complex and supplying the fuel. Tiff Needell is the instructor and Mithril are offering Zondas Bugattis and Koenniggsegg-Uh WAZZAT? Sorry I don't remember anymore as I woke up at that point.
There are some pretty obnoxious comments in response to this story. How about giving these guys a break and seeing what develops? I personally like the site (I have no association with them, just my opinion), it feels fresh and visually appealing.
Perhaps it would be better to let them develop a reputation and see how their customer service is, then hear the feedback from their actual members before jumping to quick and unfair comments.
Anyone starting a business in these economic conditions deserves a chance, I personally applaud them for trying.
Perhaps it would be better to let them develop a reputation and see how their customer service is, then hear the feedback from their actual members before jumping to quick and unfair comments.
Anyone starting a business in these economic conditions deserves a chance, I personally applaud them for trying.
v10_gt said:
There are some pretty obnoxious comments in response to this story. How about giving these guys a break and seeing what develops? I personally like the site (I have no association with them, just my opinion), it feels fresh and visually appealing.
Perhaps it would be better to let them develop a reputation and see how their customer service is, then hear the feedback from their actual members before jumping to quick and unfair comments.
Anyone starting a business in these economic conditions deserves a chance, I personally applaud them for trying.
Me too. Does it really matter what the webpage looks like??? The cars speak for themselves. Why try pulling the wool over the eyes with a fancy homepage. Wishing them the best. Perhaps it would be better to let them develop a reputation and see how their customer service is, then hear the feedback from their actual members before jumping to quick and unfair comments.
Anyone starting a business in these economic conditions deserves a chance, I personally applaud them for trying.
angus54 said:
Waste of money.
You can go to virtually any decent track in the UK and for a couple of hundred quid drive any number of supercars / single seaters on offer.
But you're hardly ever allowed to take the cars anywhere near their limit at places like that. You've always got the instructor sat next to you telling you to change up at something stupid like 3,500 rpm while you're sat thinking "but there's another 5,000 left!!!"You can go to virtually any decent track in the UK and for a couple of hundred quid drive any number of supercars / single seaters on offer.
Having said that, I'd rather use the cash towards buying my own car to use on track.
cgt said:
v10_gt said:
There are some pretty obnoxious comments in response to this story. How about giving these guys a break and seeing what develops? I personally like the site (I have no association with them, just my opinion), it feels fresh and visually appealing.
Perhaps it would be better to let them develop a reputation and see how their customer service is, then hear the feedback from their actual members before jumping to quick and unfair comments.
Anyone starting a business in these economic conditions deserves a chance, I personally applaud them for trying.
Me too. Does it really matter what the webpage looks like??? The cars speak for themselves. Why try pulling the wool over the eyes with a fancy homepage. Wishing them the best. Perhaps it would be better to let them develop a reputation and see how their customer service is, then hear the feedback from their actual members before jumping to quick and unfair comments.
Anyone starting a business in these economic conditions deserves a chance, I personally applaud them for trying.
Having been in the web site business for 14 years - I would observe that sites like theirs (i.e. a Flash "presentation") are typical of (and in fact it may not apply to them) a highly marketing lead organisation which is more interested in asserting their message, than working with their customers. The reason being that they have ignored the medium of web (ignoring both the benefits and the pitfalls) and decided to do their own canned presentation. Maybe in fact this is just a first step and they will do it properly later - though surely now is the time to do it right!
1) If I go to their home page the browser popup blocker cuts in immediately - that's dumb
2) there is very little information of use on the site - that's dumb
3) By choosing such a content light site - and one that exclusively uses Flash - they will feature very poorly in search engines - just look at their entry in Google:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww.rs-aca...
None of the flash content gets indexed at all.
Compare with this - not that I'm saying it's a great site - but at least they have a respectable presence in Google:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww.thesup...
I think that before coughing up 18k or whatever, I'd like to see a detailed business plan, statement of company finances, cashflow projections etc. It's the only way to establish whether it's a credible business or just a Ponzi scheme for petrolheads.
However, I don't have 18k to burn. Maybe those that do are less bothered by such humdrum matters.
eta: do they do direct debit?
However, I don't have 18k to burn. Maybe those that do are less bothered by such humdrum matters.
eta: do they do direct debit?
Edited by HundredthIdiot on Wednesday 22 April 08:26
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