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samdale

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just curious really. seen quite a few old cars which seem to have comparitively small engines considering the amount of cylinders.

e.g. 1934 MG KN saloon available as a 1086cc inline 6

working out as 1.086/6 = 0.181 ltrs/cyl

just wondering what production cars had the biggest and smallest ltrs/cyl past and present.

jimmy306

2,386 posts

67 months

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Smallest prodcution V6 was on the Mazda MX3, with a 1.8 V6.

James

ZesPak

13,202 posts

76 months

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I'll drop in the LS7, 7 litres in 8cyl: 0,875l/cyl
Used in Z06 and HSV W427

Sure there must be with more, but it's a start smile.

curlie467

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Flat-twin
Smallest flat-twin engine (gasoline) - 0.38 L (375 cc/23 in³) - 1948 Citroen 2CV
Largest flat-twin engine (gasoline) - 0.65 L (652 cc/40 in³) - 1978 Citroen Visa
Straight-3 (I3)
Smallest I3 engine (gasoline) - 0.36 L (357 cc/22 in³) - 1967 Suzuki Fronte
Smallest I3 engine (Diesel) - 0.8 L (799 cc/48.8 in³) - 2000 Smart Fortwo cdi
Largest I3 engine (gasoline) - 1.2 L (1198 cc/73 in³) - 2002 Volkswagen Polo/SEAT Ibiza/Å*koda Fabia
Largest I3 engine (Diesel) - 1.8 L (1779 cc/109 in³) - 1984 Alfa Romeo 33 1.8 TD
Straight-4 (I4)
Smallest I4 engine (gasoline) - 0.36 L (356 cc/21.7 in³) - 1963 Honda T360 AS250E
Smallest I4 engine (Diesel) - 1.25 L (1248 cc/65 in³) - 2003 Fiat Nuova Panda MultiJet
Largest I4 engine (gasoline) - 3.2 L (3188 cc/194.5 in³) - 1961 Pontiac Tempest 195
Largest I4 engine (Diesel) - 3.2 L (3200 cc/195 in³) - Mitsubishi Pajero 4M41
V4 engine
Smallest V4 engine - 0.9 L (903 cc/55 in³) - 1939 Lancia Ardea V4
Largest V4 engine - 2.6 L (2568 cc/157 in³) - 1930 Lancia Lambda V4
Straight-5 (I5)
Smallest I5 engine (gasoline) - 1.9 L (1921 cc/117 in³) - 1981 Audi 100 1.9 E
Smallest I5 engine (Diesel) - 2.0 L (1986 cc/121 in³) - 1978 Audi 100 2.0 D
Largest I5 engine (gasoline) - 3.7 L (3653 cc/223 in³) - 2007 GM Atlas L5R 3700
Largest I5 engine (Diesel) - 3.5 L (3469 cc/212 in³) - 1990 Land Cruiser 1PZ Diesel
Straight-6 (I6)
Smallest I6 engine (gasoline) - 1.0 L (1047 cc/64 in³) - 1978 Honda CBX1000
Smallest I6 engine (Diesel) - 2.4 L (2383 cc/145 in³) - 1979 Volvo 240 D24
Largest I6 engine (gasoline) - 5.0 L (5047 cc/308 in³) - c 1953 Hudson Hornet
Largest I6 engine (Diesel) - 6.7 L (6690 cc/408 in³) - 2007 Dodge Ram 2500/3500 Cummins B series turbodiesel
V6 engine
Smallest V6 engine (gasoline) - 1.0 L - 1960s DKW F102 (a two-stroke V6) (about 100 produced for testing, 13 fitted to road cars)[1]
Honorable mention: 1.6 L (1597 cc/97 in³) - 1992 Mitsubishi Lancer 6A10
Smallest V6 engine (Diesel) - 2.5 L (2496 cc/152 in³) - 1996 Audi/VW 2.5 TDI (in multiple cars)
Largest V6 engine (gasoline) - 5.8 L (5755 cc/351 in³) - 1966 GMC 1000-3500 series 351E 60° V6
Largest V6 engine (Diesel) - 4.3 L (4304 cc/262 in³) - 1982 GM LT6
V8 engine
Smallest V8 engine (gasoline) - 2.0 L (1990 cc/121 in³) - 1975 Ferrari 208 GT4
Others: ATS/BRM/Coventry Climax and Ferrari Formula One 1.5 L V8 engines (none of them used in a road car)
Smallest American V8 engine - 3.4 L (3391 cc/207 in³) - 1996 Ford Taurus SHO V8
Smallest V8 engine (Diesel) - 3.3 L (3328 cc/203 in³) - 2000 Audi A8 3.3 TDI
Largest V8 engine (gasoline) - 8.2 L (8194 cc/500 in³) - 1970 Cadillac Eldorado 500
Honorable mention: 12.8 L (12782 cc/780 in³) - 2006 Weineck Cobra 780 (limited edition tuner car)
Largest small-block V8 engine - 7.0 L (7008 cc/428 in³) - 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
Largest V8 engine (Diesel) - 7.3 L (7275 cc/444 in³) - 1997 Ford F250 Power Stroke
V10 engine
Smallest V10 engine - 4.9 L (4921 cc/301 in³) - Volkswagen Touareg V10 TDI
Largest V10 engine - 8.3 L (8277 cc/505 in³) - 2003 Dodge Viper
V12 engine
Smallest V12 engine - 2.0 L (1995 cc/122 in³) - 1948 Ferrari 166 Inter Colombo
Largest V12 engine - 7.5 L (7467c cc/456 in³)- 1934 Packard Twelve Victoria
Honorable mention: - 7.7 L (7730 cc/471 in³) -TVR Cerbera Speed 12 (Vehicle never reached production).
Largest W12 engine - 6.0 L (6000 cc/366 cu in³) 2005 Audi A8
V16 engine
Largest V16 engine - 7.4 L (7406 cc/452 in³)- 1930 Cadillac V16
Honorable mention: 13.6 L (13600 cc/829 cu in³) 2003 Cadillac Sixteen (concept car)
W16 engine
Largest W16 engine - 8.0 L (7993 cc) - 2005 Bugatti Veyron 16.4

LeoZwalf

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Ferrari 250 GT = 2.5 litres, V12. 208cc/cyl. Awesome sounding thing and I was lucky enough to drive one once!



Some very old stuff had rather large capacity in a low number of cylinders, I may be rather wrong but weren't there some 6+ litre 4 cylinder cars waaay back in the 1910-1920's?
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samdale

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jimmy306 said:
Smallest prodcution V6 was on the Mazda MX3, with a 1.8 V6.

James
not particularly worried about engine configurations and sizes "smallest production V6/V8" etc as i believe it's been covered. just pondering the ltr/cyl

for EXAMPLE the largest V8 might be 8 litres = 1ltr/cyl but could be beaten by say an 8ltr V6 or 12ltr V10 when it comes to ltr/cyl

Nobody You Know

8,422 posts

73 months

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RE above. I'm pretty sure the largest I4 Diesel is not 3.2L my Fathers Merc Van had a 4L I4 apparently (it was an 814D if that helps)

LeoZwalf

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What about truck engines? Or boat? Some of those are crazy huge especially boats.

I notice in the pasted post above that the Alfa Romeo 33 1.8 TD is a 3 cylinder? Is that correct?! Seems like a very large capacity for 3 pots.

ZesPak

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LeoZwalf said:
What about truck engines? Or boat? Some of those are crazy huge especially boats.

I notice in the pasted post above that the Alfa Romeo 33 1.8 TD is a 3 cylinder? Is that correct?! Seems like a very large capacity for 3 pots.
But still no contender at 0,6l/cyl

crofty1984

10,267 posts

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Ferrari 208 has a 2 litre V8 (Italian market) that's the smallest production V8 i think
At uni there was a 7 litre single cylinder engine.

Eddh

4,258 posts

72 months

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Smallist - 50cc moped.

samdale

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crofty1984 said:
Ferrari 208 has a 2 litre V8 (Italian market) that's the smallest production V8 i thinkreadit
At uni there was a 7 litre single cylinder engine.
was this^^ in a "production car"???

crofty1984

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samdale said:
crofty1984 said:
Ferrari 208 has a 2 litre V8 (Italian market) that's the smallest production V8 i thinkreadit
At uni there was a 7 litre single cylinder engine.
was this^^ in a "production car"???
The Ferrari, yes it was. The diesel probably not. The flywheel was 12feet in diameter.

samdale

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ZesPak and LeoZwalf maybe one of you could somehow reword my OP. i know im not the most ingenius writer but i really didn't think it was THAT hard to understand...

IIRC "largest production this..." and "smallest production that..." was covered a while back

mrmr96

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Someone asked a related question last year:
http://pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&amp...

I also put this table together which demonstrates that there appears to be an optimal capacity per cylinder.

Car Size litres Configuration cc per cylinder
Matiz 0.8 in line 3 267
Corsa 1.0 in line 3 333
Corsa 1.2 in line 4 300
Focus 1.4 in line 4 350
Focus 1.8 in line 4 450
Focus 2 in line 4 500
Evo 2 in line 4 500
Focus 2.5 in line 5 500
R34 2.6 in line 6 433
630i 3 in line 6 500
350Z 3.5 v6 583
M3 4 v8 500
M5 5 v10 500
Enzo 6 v12 500
Veyron 8 w16 500

Gizmo!

17,712 posts

89 months

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In 1964-65, the Ferrari 1512 was a 1.5 litre 180deg V12. 125cc per cylinder is pretty teeny.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/139/Ferrari-151...

ZesPak

13,202 posts

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samdale said:
ZesPak and LeoZwalf maybe one of you could somehow reword my OP. i know im not the most ingenius writer but i really didn't think it was THAT hard to understand...

IIRC "largest production this..." and "smallest production that..." was covered a while back
Thanks, lets start all over.
We want 4 engines:

Fewest l/cyl ever in production car (samdale: 0,181)
Fewest l/cyl currently in production car

Most l/cyl ever in production car
Most l/cyl currently in production car (ZesPak: 0,875)

jon-

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Nice table above!

I'm sure I read somewhere that with modern engine tech much about 2.5 litres in a 4 cylinder engine is pointless. It's more efficient to switch to a 6 cylinder engine.

I can't think of many 2.5 litre 4 cylinder petrols anymore (Mazda 6 springs to mind) and none larger still in production.

fluffnik

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LeoZwalf said:
Ferrari 250 GT = 2.5 litres, V12. 208cc/cyl. Awesome sounding thing and I was lucky enough to drive one once!
nono

Ferrari numbering of that period was based on single cylinder capacity in cc:
  • 166 - 12x166cc = 2l
  • 250 - 12x250cc = 3l
  • 275 - 12x275cc = 3.3l
  • 500 - 4x500cc = 2l
  • ...

LeoZwalf

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fluffnik said:
LeoZwalf said:
Ferrari 250 GT = 2.5 litres, V12. 208cc/cyl. Awesome sounding thing and I was lucky enough to drive one once!
nono

Ferrari numbering of that period was based on single cylinder capacity in cc:
  • 166 - 12x166cc = 2l
  • 250 - 12x250cc = 3l
  • 275 - 12x275cc = 3.3l
  • 500 - 4x500cc = 2l
  • ...
Thanks - I had always been told it was a 2.5 litre so was going on that info smile


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