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MitchT

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I'm filling in the form to get a new passport as mine expires in a few months. The "country of birth" section is very ambiguous. It says "Country of birth (including UK)". What does that mean? Do I have to include UK with whatever else I put, e.g. "England UK", or what? I'm confused!

Stevenj214

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United Kingdom

Poledriver

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I've just sent off my application for a second passport, I put England on there. It was the country where I was born!

SS2.

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Me, I'd be putting 'England'.

crofty1984

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At a guess it's to stop people from the UK leaving it blank thinking "I'm filling this in to get a UK passport, 99% of us will be born in the UK, probably only for foreigners that have managed to get citizenship."

Edited by crofty1984 on Saturday 8th August 10:19

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Stevenj214

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crofty1984 said:
At a guess it's to stop people from the UK leaving it blank thinking "I'm filling this in to get a UK passport, 99% of us will be born in the UK, probably only for foreigners that have managed to get citizenship."

Edited by crofty1984 on Saturday 8th August 10:19
Yeh, it's essentially asking "Country of Birth (Even if it's UK)" i.e if you were born in Scotland, England, Wales or N.I you should put UK.

Trevor Hill

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Is the UK a country?

Stevenj214

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Trevor Hill said:
Is the UK a country?
Is Scotland a country?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the full name of the country. Scotland is a kingdom within the United Kingdom (UK), and forms part of Britain (the largest island) and Great Britain (which includes the Scottish islands).

As the UK has no written constitution in the usual sense, constitutional terminology is fraught with difficulties of interpretation and it is common usage nowadays to describe the four constituent parts of the UK (Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland) as “countries”

From: http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/vli/publicInfo/f...

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The same holds true for England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Now put your fishing rod away.

Edited by Stevenj214 on Saturday 8th August 11:27

dickymint

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Stevenj214 said:
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The same holds true for England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Now put your fishing rod away.
Thought Wales is a Principality?

109 Bob

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Stevenj214 said:
The United Kingdom of Great Britain
There's your answer.

But because everybody's in such a hurry these days, U.K. will be fine.

Edited by 109 Bob on Saturday 8th August 11:36

XJSJohn

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FFS if you are born in that group of islands that constitutes England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Cornwall etc (but not republic of Ireland) it is the UK.

There are lots of people around the world who were born in other countries (for example, my 70 year old next door neighbor, Malay & born in Singapore when it was part of the Empire still. As such he was given a UK passport but his place of birth is Singapore. )

Another is a mate of mine, he and his wife were born and bred in the UK (one Northern Irish the other from London) and as such have UK passports. Their daughter was born here in Singapore and has a UK Passport, so puts Singapore as country of birth.

Etc etc.

Not difficult, or am I having a WHOOOOOOSH moment?

banghead

MitchT

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I remembered that I helped my ex with hers a year ago and we ended up putting England, and that worked, so that's what I've put on mine.

Stevenj214

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dickymint said:
Stevenj214 said:
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The same holds true for England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Now put your fishing rod away.
Thought Wales is a Principality?
The same holds true as in all are commonly referred to as 'countries' but aren't.

Halb

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Trevor Hill said:
Is the UK a country?
...Yes...yes it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
"The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland[13] (commonly known as the United Kingdom, the UK, or Britain)[14] is a sovereign state located off the northwestern coast of continental Europe. It is an island country,[15][16] spanning an archipelago including Great Britain, the northeastern part of Ireland, and many small islands. Northern Ireland is the only part of the UK with a land border, sharing it with the Republic of Ireland.[17][18] Apart from this land border, the UK is surrounded by the Atlantic Ocean, the North Sea, the English Channel and the Irish Sea. "
For people born within the UK, our nationality is British.
Here is a page that deals with the separate constituent countries of the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_of_the_Unit...

Eric Mc

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XJSJohn said:
FFS if you are born in that group of islands that constitutes England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Cornwall etc (but not republic of Ireland) it is the UK.

There are lots of people around the world who were born in other countries (for example, my 70 year old next door neighbor, Malay & born in Singapore when it was part of the Empire still. As such he was given a UK passport but his place of birth is Singapore. )

Another is a mate of mine, he and his wife were born and bred in the UK (one Northern Irish the other from London) and as such have UK passports. Their daughter was born here in Singapore and has a UK Passport, so puts Singapore as country of birth.

Etc etc.

Not difficult, or am I having a WHOOOOOOSH moment?

banghead
Neither the Channel Islands nor the Isle of Man are part of the UK.

SamHH

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XJSJohn said:
FFS if you are born in that group of islands that constitutes England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Cornwall etc (but not republic of Ireland) it is the UK.

Not difficult, or am I having a WHOOOOOOSH moment?
Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man are not part of the UK. They are Crown Dependencies, which means they have a similar status to British overseas territories like the Falkland Islands and British Virgin Islands.
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