Engine change and the V5

[T89 Callan]

Just a quicky.

I have changed my 320i to a 325i via an engine conversion, I have informed my insurance and they have isued new documents all done properly on that front.

How important is it that I re-register it with the DVLA? Is it an offence to have it still registered as a 2 litre on the V5

Also do I have to send them a new engine number? or can I just give them the cylinder capacity change?

I just really hate dealing with the DVLA and with new reg time fast approaching it will no-doubt take ages to return the V5 and I may end up selling it soon so want the V5 handy so I was going to leave it until the time when I send it off for the new keeper.

Cheers

ETA: it is a 1988 model so Tax isn't affected.

Edited by T89 Callan on Wednesday 12th August 00:35

[peterguk M500]

IIRC, technically, it is an offence to have incorrect engine details on your V5.

I updated mine (engine size and engine number) with DVLA when i upgraded my Noble from 2.5 to 3.0.

[aw51 121565]

Dead easy, just fill details in and send the V5C off.

Or you could take it to your local DVLA Office, wait around for an hour or so (hopefully shorter rather than longer time!) and hand it in there and speak to someone - this way you know it's got there and leapfrogged any unopened post backlog at Swansea at least...

Dealing with my local DVLA Office gave me a much more positive impression of the DVLA as an organisation than previous dealings with Swansea .

[Utterpiffle]

DVLA website said:

DVLA will need written evidence of any changes to engine number and cylinder capacity (cc). Written evidence can be:

* a receipt for the replacement engine
* written evidence from the manufacturer
* an inspection report provided for insurance purposes
* written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...

It's easy enough, you just need to give them some proof.

It's only when the car changes tax brackets (e.g. 1.3 car with a 1.8 engine) that they can now get a bit funny, but even so, the worst is that they demand an inspection.

Edited by Utterpiffle on Wednesday 12th August 13:31

[Robert060379]

2.0 to 2.5 is a different Tax class as well I think, so you may have to re-Tax the car with the new capaccity because as soon as the V5 is updated it will show that you have only paid Tax for a up to 2.0 car and may trigger an ANPR camera.

When I converted my MG B from a 1.8 to a 3.9 I ran the car for two months with the wrong Tax disk before I got a nasty letter from the DVLA.

[Utterpiffle]

Robert060379 said:

2.0 to 2.5 is a different Tax class as well I think, so you may have to re-Tax the car with the new capaccity because as soon as the V5 is updated it will show that you have only paid Tax for a up to 2.0 car and may trigger an ANPR camera.

When I converted my MG B from a 1.8 to a 3.9 I ran the car for two months with the wrong Tax disk before I got a nasty letter from the DVLA.

Nah, not with an old e30. Only two tax brackets for a car that age; under 1549cc and over 1549cc

Don't understand your MGB problem, as the engine capacity is not written on the tax disc...

[Seight_Returns]

I'd walk away if I went to buy a car and the engine was different to that on the V5 - whatever the seller's story was.

[T89 Callan]

hora said:

I can't help on the V5-front however any pics? Any other mods? Why the swap? I love E30's!

There you go...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

My point was that I may want to sell the car and people get funny if you don't have a V5 which may take months to get at present.

I'm fully insured but would I be comitting any major offence if I drive it still registered as a 2.0 even though insurance have been informed.

Also I have done the conversion myself so have no paperwork documenting tha change to send off.

[oldsoak]

Utterpiffle said:

Robert060379 said:

2.0 to 2.5 is a different Tax class as well I think, so you may have to re-Tax the car with the new capaccity because as soon as the V5 is updated it will show that you have only paid Tax for a up to 2.0 car and may trigger an ANPR camera.

When I converted my MG B from a 1.8 to a 3.9 I ran the car for two months with the wrong Tax disk before I got a nasty letter from the DVLA.

Nah, not with an old e30. Only two tax brackets for a car that age; under 1549cc and over 1549cc

Don't understand your MGB problem, as the engine capacity is not written on the tax disc...

...these days (it used to be though)
Robert060379...it depends on exhaust emissions as to what tax you pay these days...when did you last tax a car I wonder?

[Robert060379]

oldsoak said:

Utterpiffle said:

Robert060379 said:

2.0 to 2.5 is a different Tax class as well I think, so you may have to re-Tax the car with the new capaccity because as soon as the V5 is updated it will show that you have only paid Tax for a up to 2.0 car and may trigger an ANPR camera.

When I converted my MG B from a 1.8 to a 3.9 I ran the car for two months with the wrong Tax disk before I got a nasty letter from the DVLA.

Nah, not with an old e30. Only two tax brackets for a car that age; under 1549cc and over 1549cc

Don't understand your MGB problem, as the engine capacity is not written on the tax disc...

...these days (it used to be though)
Robert060379...it depends on exhaust emissions as to what tax you pay these days...when did you last tax a car I wonder?

Did the conversion over Winter and re-Taxed the car in February. Just bought a Tax exempt one to start again.

[youngsyr]

Seight_Returns said:

I'd walk away if I went to buy a car and the engine was different to that on the V5 - whatever the seller's story was.

Why not, do you think that stock engines are any stronger/more reliable than a decently forged one?

It's quite common in the Jap scene to have the stock engines bored/stroked to increase cc and even to have the block swapped for a larger capacity one. It's a relatively cheap way to get ridiculous bhp (500+).

[Robert060379]

Is that the 318 with a restrictor? Stick a 535 or 840 lump in there.