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Police State

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We have a spare family car that I want to press back into service. It has no MOT (but is very roadworthy). I want to get two new tyres as the existing one's are slow punctured.

Can I take it to the tyre fitters without having a problem with the law?



Edited by Police State on Saturday 5th September 11:24

vonhosen

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Police State said:
We have a spare family car that I want to press back into service. It has no MOT (but is very roadworthy). I want to get two new tyres as the existing one's are slow punctured.

Can I take it to the tyre fitters without having a problem with the law?
No.

Take the two wheels off & take them to the tyre fitters or get a mobile unit to you.
(Unless you are booking it in for a MOT at that garage & you get them to fit the two tyres prior to the MOT).

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 5th September 11:28

Police State

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vonhosen said:
Police State said:
We have a spare family car that I want to press back into service. It has no MOT (but is very roadworthy). I want to get two new tyres as the existing one's are slow punctured.

Can I take it to the tyre fitters without having a problem with the law?
No.

Take the two wheels off & take them to the tyre fitters or get a mobile unit to you.
(Unless you are booking it in for a MOT at that garage & you get them to fit the two tyres prior to the MOT).

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 5th September 11:28
Thanks for that complete answer. I will book it in for MOT at the same time.

uuf361

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Or if you really only want the tyres then have one of the mobile tyre fitters come to you - I've used them a couple of times without no problems and always very competitive.

Puddenchucker

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vonhosen said:
Police State said:
We have a spare family car that I want to press back into service. It has no MOT (but is very roadworthy). I want to get two new tyres as the existing one's are slow punctured.

Can I take it to the tyre fitters without having a problem with the law?
No.

Take the two wheels off & take them to the tyre fitters or get a mobile unit to you.
(Unless you are booking it in for a MOT at that garage & you get them to fit the two tyres prior to the MOT).

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 5th September 11:28
Whilst that's good advice, Von, I thought you were allowed to drive a vehicle directly to/from a location where pre-arranged work/repairs are to be carried out to enable the vehicle pass the MOT. Assuming the vehicle is in a safe condition - i.e. bald tyres would be a no-no, but tyres with a slow pucture would be OK?
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t84

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I'm sure you can drive with no MOT if you're going to get it repaired? If the car failed on tyres then new tyres count as a repair surely?

Mg6b

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t84 said:
I'm sure you can drive with no MOT if you're going to get it repaired? If the car failed on tyres then new tyres count as a repair surely?
Partly right.
It has to fail an MOT test first. You can then drive it to a place where it is to be repaired in preparation for the re test without a valid MOT and back again to the test location.


p1esk

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Mg6b said:
t84 said:
I'm sure you can drive with no MOT if you're going to get it repaired? If the car failed on tyres then new tyres count as a repair surely?
Partly right.
It has to fail an MOT test first. You can then drive it to a place where it is to be repaired in preparation for the re test without a valid MOT and back again to the test location.
That does seem odd, does it not?

A car that is roadworthy but doesn't have a current MOT certificate can't legally be driven somewhere for attention, but one that has failed an MOT test, and therefore is shown to be unroadworthy, can!

Have I misunderstood the legalities, or is that a nonsensical situation?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

GreenV8S

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Slow puncture doesn't sound like an MOT fail to me, unless the tyres are also perished/damaged/worn (in which case driving to the MOT station/garage to replace them isn't a smart idea).

GreenV8S

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p1esk said:
A car that is roadworthy but doesn't have a current MOT certificate can't legally be driven somewhere for attention, but one that has failed an MOT test, and therefore is shown to be unroadworthy, can!
Isn't this just an extension of the 'driving to/from an MOT test' exemption? I don't think an MOT failure entitles you to drive from home to a garage to get work done on the car. The exemption only applies to the journey to/from the test centre.

mrmr96

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Look, an actual police man has come on and given an answer, which the op has accepted, yet people are STILL arguing based on their limited understanding and things they've read in similar threads on this subject. Unbelieveable

Dwight VanDriver

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Dave

As Venerable Von states it is the law:

Motor Vehicles (Tests) Regulations, 1981

Reg 6 exemptions:

(2)(a) (iii) (A)
..where a test certificate is refused on an examination for the purposes of delivering it by previous arrangements, or bringing it away from, a place where work is to be or has been done on it to remedy for a further examination the defects on the grounds of which the test certificate waas refused

dvd

p1esk

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mrmr96 said:
Look, an actual police man has come on and given an answer, which the op has accepted, yet people are STILL arguing based on their limited understanding and things they've read in similar threads on this subject. Unbelieveable
Not here, it isn't. laugh

Best wishes all,
Dave.

p1esk

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Dwight VanDriver said:
Dave

As Venerable Von states it is the law:

Motor Vehicles (Tests) Regulations, 1981

Reg 6 exemptions:

(2)(a) (iii) (A)
..where a test certificate is refused on an examination for the purposes of delivering it by previous arrangements, or bringing it away from, a place where work is to be or has been done on it to remedy for a further examination the defects on the grounds of which the test certificate waas refused

dvd
Oh, I expect what Von and mg6b said is correct as far as the law is concerned. It just sounded like practical nonsense to me - but that's not unusual!

Best wishes all,
Dave.

onomatopoeia

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Dwight VanDriver said:
Dave

As Venerable Von states it is the law:

Motor Vehicles (Tests) Regulations, 1981

Reg 6 exemptions:

(2)(a) (iii) (A)
..where a test certificate is refused on an examination for the purposes of delivering it by previous arrangements, or bringing it away from, a place where work is to be or has been done on it to remedy for a further examination the defects on the grounds of which the test certificate waas refused

dvd
I'm glad I didn't know that when I took the Singer in to have some welding done last November. The MOT was expired and I knew it would fail, so I arranged for the welding to be done first.

It appears from the above I should have taken it for an MOT, let it fail, then got the welding I knew it needed done, then taken it for another MOT.
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