No more manual Ferrari's? Is it ACTUALLY true?

[lambo_xx]

I've read a few things saying that Ferrari have decided not to make any more manual cars, however I've also read things saying that they will but it will just be an option.

Does anyone know the truth? I will be gutted if they don't. That 458 in manual would be pornographic!

[ferrari spider]

I to have heard this to, so kudos to lamborghini for offering both. But i bet if that Sultan dude wants a few manual 458s, they will.

[hy789]

check this month's evo - seems to suggest manual won't be an option going forward...

[sng45]

seems a little ironic when one of the main features of a Ferrari was the open gate which was always viewed as the iconic sign of a supercar !

[hy789]

i'm sure they'll (have to) have a re-think...

[paul0843]

i reckon the time will come when a manual box will be charged as an extra to the "standard"f1

[Anjum]

I understand that Lamborghini are going down the same route.....

Edited by Anjum on Sunday 25th October 17:54

[lambo_xx]

I really hope it's not true! I know flappy paddles are getting better and better now a days and to be honest I wouldn't say know to one if it was good enough. The trouble is it's just not as involving as a manual. I could cope with them charging a bit more for a manual, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Ferrari don't stop making them completely.

[al1991]

denon786 said:

I can see why manufacturers of supercars won't be making cars with manual boxes in there next gerneation of cars.

Yes, because the majority of their customers cannot be bothered with the troublesome business of actually driving the car...

[Schermerhorn]

sng45 said:

seems a little ironic when one of the main features of a Ferrari was the open gate which was always viewed as the iconic sign of a supercar !

The game has moved on big time...

[hy789]

Schermerhorn said:

sng45 said:

seems a little ironic when one of the main features of a Ferrari was the open gate which was always viewed as the iconic sign of a supercar !

The game has moved on big time...

game has moved on big time, agreed - but the open gate will remain iconic regardless...

[bromers2]

lambo_xx said:

The trouble is it's just not as involving as a manual.

Why do you think it's not as involving ?

F1 / Paddle shift is the way forward.

It's a bit like saying ABS or traction control is less involving -
"doesn't give you the same feel". Debatable but you wouldn't spec a car today without it.

[bad company]

denon786 said:

I've been lucky enough to drive a ferrari 360 and lamborghini gallardo that were both paddle shifts. It took me afew hours to get used to it, but once I did, I much prefered it to a manual shift. I can see why manufacturers of supercars won't be making cars with manual boxes in there next gerneation of cars.

That was my experienc exactly. I had a 355 & 360 in munual then a 430 F1. I would never go back to manual.

[Anjum]

After 1250 miles in the e-gear SV - the jury is still out for me. I love the manual gearbox in the 550/360/430/Balboni - it actually works very well.

However, I can see why e-gear/F1 is popular. I would guess that most people do not heel and toe (nor do/should they want to) - perhaps this explains why it's so popular? As the car is moving so fast, it's one less thing to worry about, I guess?

Horses for courses - or is that Corsa's?!

[paddy328]

loving your sv anjum

[lambo_xx]

bromers2 said:

lambo_xx said:

The trouble is it's just not as involving as a manual.

Why do you think it's not as involving ?

F1 / Paddle shift is the way forward.

It's a bit like saying ABS or traction control is less involving -
"doesn't give you the same feel". Debatable but you wouldn't spec a car today without it.

No paddle sts are less involving. You can't blip the throttle yourself, you can't heal and toe. I see the point completely in flappy paddles and as I said earlier I wouldn't rule out rule one out.

What I don't get though is a Porshce 911 Nissan GTR is technically a much better car than a 430 or Gallardo, however it is always argued that they are a bit sterile and dare I say it boring. So surely then by that logic although an F1 box is technically better, but it isn't really as fun as a manual

Still regardless of whether an F1 box is better or not surely they could still offer manual as an option.

Edited by lambo_xx on Tuesday 27th October 14:18

[bad company]

lambo_xx said:

Porshce 911 is technically a much better car than a 430 or Gallardo

Really. What are you basing that on please. The 911 was designed in the dark ages.

[lambo_xx]

bad company said:

lambo_xx said:

Porshce 911 is technically a much better car than a 430 or Gallardo

Really. What are you basing that on please. The 911 was designed in the dark ages.

Ok to avoid a 911 vs Ferrari argument I shall change my point and say that a Nissan GTR is technically better than a 430 or Gallardo because it is, however just because it's technically better doesn't mean it's "better" if you know what I mean.

[bad company]

lambo_xx said:

bad company said:

lambo_xx said:

Porshce 911 is technically a much better car than a 430 or Gallardo

Really. What are you basing that on please. The 911 was designed in the dark ages.

Ok to avoid a 911 vs Ferrari argument I shall change my point and say that a Nissan GTR is technically better than a 430 or Gallardo because it is, however just because it's technically better doesn't mean it's "better" if you know what I mean.

So what exactly do you mean by 'technically better' - does tne Nassan have more gizmos, is the engine better, does it handle better - what?

[Wanta996Gotta]

bad company said:

lambo_xx said:

bad company said:

lambo_xx said:

Porshce 911 is technically a much better car than a 430 or Gallardo

Really. What are you basing that on please. The 911 was designed in the dark ages.

Ok to avoid a 911 vs Ferrari argument I shall change my point and say that a Nissan GTR is technically better than a 430 or Gallardo because it is, however just because it's technically better doesn't mean it's "better" if you know what I mean.

So what exactly do you mean by 'technically better' - does tne Nassan have more gizmos, is the engine better, does it handle better - what?

Similar to your quote of the 911 designed in the dark ages??. The F430/Gallardo and Murci are now old designs when compared to a GTR or the new F458 - there is no denying that, i have always viewed the 430 as a blinged up 1998/9 designed F360 anyway.

The GTR took it to the next level and its now Ferrari and Lamborghinis time to catch up. Did i ever think i would see Lambos with lifting systems,launch control,3 different suspension settings and reverse cameras? No...... but times have moved on.

I do however agree that manual cars have had there day and DSG like systems are the way ahead. This story about Ferrari stopping the use of them is old news and was announced when the California arrived as it was stated that no Ferrari after the California would have a manual gear change.

There is no benifit whatsover of having a manual over the Paddles in my opinion apart from some nostalgic reasons.