Gallardo,paddle shift or manual???
Discussion
Polarbert said:
andrew. said:
e-gear can be a bit of a pain for low speed manoeuvring ( eg tight driveway/garage ) but is my preference : the novelty of those noisy change-down throttle blips never fades
Heel and toe on a manual would do that as well! 
andrew. said:
Polarbert said:
andrew. said:
e-gear can be a bit of a pain for low speed manoeuvring ( eg tight driveway/garage ) but is my preference : the novelty of those noisy change-down throttle blips never fades
Heel and toe on a manual would do that as well! 
Fair enough. I suppose its everyones own decision at the end of the day as to what they prefer.Being only 23 I can only dream that I'll have enough dosh one day to get something loud and Italian, preferably with a bull on the bonnet.
Its easy once you've learnt, and makes driving more pleasurable, in my opinion anyway. Can't resist doing it even in my little Clio Sport!
Try down changing and matching the revs first without braking, and then add in the braking part afterwards. The only reason I do it is because I like doing it!
Try down changing and matching the revs first without braking, and then add in the braking part afterwards. The only reason I do it is because I like doing it!
Hi Chaps
This question about e-gear or manual comes up a lot. Which you have is purely down to personal preferance but to say that one lasts longer than the other is not totally the fault of mechanics, its down to the way the cars are driven. They are the same part. An e-gear is programmed to make the up gear changes as effective as possible but via lots of clever logic and mechanical bits all talking to each other, blips the throttle during a down change so that the new gear change occurs with the preselected gear spinning at its ideal rpm to engage and this has the effect of reducing wear on the clutch during down shifts.
Launching the car is the number 1 destructive force on the clutch and therefore the most life limiting procedure.
Second is sitting in traffic with the clutch engaged in an e-gear or riding it in a manual. Its easier to leave it engaged in an e-gear because the car will sit there happily with it engaged with your foot on the brake, whereas in a manual, if you lift the clutch pedal with 1st engaged the car will start to move.
Most of the wear is done at low or no speeds and high torque requirements, like launching, or fast acceleration from very slow speeds or when reversing. Being wary of this when you own the car means that you can, if you choose, modify your technique to look after the clutch and therefore get many more miles out of it.
Tips that were given to me (i have an e-gear and have managed 9000 miles with only 4% wear)include
1) Always put the car in to neautral if you think you are going to come to a stop. If you are still in motion and you want to select a gear, the e-gear will select the gear it thinks you need as determined by its speed, so it could go directly to second for example.
2) It is ok to have it engaged if you think you will only be stationary for a second or 2 but any longer than that, literally, refer to 1 above
3) If sitting stationary in a queue, build up extra distance between you and the car in front before engaging the gear and moving forward, pull forward and then back into neutral again. Sorry if you're sitting behind me but im not delaying your journey at all...... get over it!
4) Never launch it
5) If you have to reverse uphil...... get out and walk!
6) Never Ever launch it
7) I was told by a mechanic at Lamborghini in Italy that it was ok and actually better for the clutch to lift slightly whilst changing up if you are not racing. The inference being that keeping your foot hard down and banging through the gears does create more wear.
8) Dont use automatic mode if stopping and starting continously
9) Dont launch it, you run the risk of looking a complete dick if the clutch disintegrates.
The above seems to have been good advice being as there has been little wear on my clutch. Being able to read the clutch wear is a big bonus on an e-gear but whichever version you go for, enjoy the heck out of it.
Happy Motoring
GW
Which ever version you buy, enjoy the heck out of it.
This question about e-gear or manual comes up a lot. Which you have is purely down to personal preferance but to say that one lasts longer than the other is not totally the fault of mechanics, its down to the way the cars are driven. They are the same part. An e-gear is programmed to make the up gear changes as effective as possible but via lots of clever logic and mechanical bits all talking to each other, blips the throttle during a down change so that the new gear change occurs with the preselected gear spinning at its ideal rpm to engage and this has the effect of reducing wear on the clutch during down shifts.
Launching the car is the number 1 destructive force on the clutch and therefore the most life limiting procedure.
Second is sitting in traffic with the clutch engaged in an e-gear or riding it in a manual. Its easier to leave it engaged in an e-gear because the car will sit there happily with it engaged with your foot on the brake, whereas in a manual, if you lift the clutch pedal with 1st engaged the car will start to move.
Most of the wear is done at low or no speeds and high torque requirements, like launching, or fast acceleration from very slow speeds or when reversing. Being wary of this when you own the car means that you can, if you choose, modify your technique to look after the clutch and therefore get many more miles out of it.
Tips that were given to me (i have an e-gear and have managed 9000 miles with only 4% wear)include
1) Always put the car in to neautral if you think you are going to come to a stop. If you are still in motion and you want to select a gear, the e-gear will select the gear it thinks you need as determined by its speed, so it could go directly to second for example.
2) It is ok to have it engaged if you think you will only be stationary for a second or 2 but any longer than that, literally, refer to 1 above
3) If sitting stationary in a queue, build up extra distance between you and the car in front before engaging the gear and moving forward, pull forward and then back into neutral again. Sorry if you're sitting behind me but im not delaying your journey at all...... get over it!
4) Never launch it
5) If you have to reverse uphil...... get out and walk!
6) Never Ever launch it
7) I was told by a mechanic at Lamborghini in Italy that it was ok and actually better for the clutch to lift slightly whilst changing up if you are not racing. The inference being that keeping your foot hard down and banging through the gears does create more wear.
8) Dont use automatic mode if stopping and starting continously
9) Dont launch it, you run the risk of looking a complete dick if the clutch disintegrates.
The above seems to have been good advice being as there has been little wear on my clutch. Being able to read the clutch wear is a big bonus on an e-gear but whichever version you go for, enjoy the heck out of it.
Happy Motoring
GW
Which ever version you buy, enjoy the heck out of it.
A couple of years ago i was a diehard manual fan, you couldn't have paid me to have an auto. Now however i just can't believe anyone buys a manual, e gear or the equivalent in my opinion is better in every way.
Like others say try both, it should be an easy decision which you like better.
Like others say try both, it should be an easy decision which you like better.
Global Warrior said:
Hi Chaps
This question about e-gear or manual comes up a lot. Which you have is purely down to personal preferance but to say that one lasts longer than the other is not totally the fault of mechanics, its down to the way the cars are driven. They are the same part. An e-gear is programmed to make the up gear changes as effective as possible but via lots of clever logic and mechanical bits all talking to each other, blips the throttle during a down change so that the new gear change occurs with the preselected gear spinning at its ideal rpm to engage and this has the effect of reducing wear on the clutch during down shifts.
Launching the car is the number 1 destructive force on the clutch and therefore the most life limiting procedure.
Second is sitting in traffic with the clutch engaged in an e-gear or riding it in a manual. Its easier to leave it engaged in an e-gear because the car will sit there happily with it engaged with your foot on the brake, whereas in a manual, if you lift the clutch pedal with 1st engaged the car will start to move.
Most of the wear is done at low or no speeds and high torque requirements, like launching, or fast acceleration from very slow speeds or when reversing. Being wary of this when you own the car means that you can, if you choose, modify your technique to look after the clutch and therefore get many more miles out of it.
Tips that were given to me (i have an e-gear and have managed 9000 miles with only 4% wear)include
1) Always put the car in to neautral if you think you are going to come to a stop. If you are still in motion and you want to select a gear, the e-gear will select the gear it thinks you need as determined by its speed, so it could go directly to second for example.
2) It is ok to have it engaged if you think you will only be stationary for a second or 2 but any longer than that, literally, refer to 1 above
3) If sitting stationary in a queue, build up extra distance between you and the car in front before engaging the gear and moving forward, pull forward and then back into neutral again. Sorry if you're sitting behind me but im not delaying your journey at all...... get over it!
4) Never launch it
5) If you have to reverse uphil...... get out and walk!
6) Never Ever launch it
7) I was told by a mechanic at Lamborghini in Italy that it was ok and actually better for the clutch to lift slightly whilst changing up if you are not racing. The inference being that keeping your foot hard down and banging through the gears does create more wear.
8) Dont use automatic mode if stopping and starting continously
9) Dont launch it, you run the risk of looking a complete dick if the clutch disintegrates.
The above seems to have been good advice being as there has been little wear on my clutch. Being able to read the clutch wear is a big bonus on an e-gear but whichever version you go for, enjoy the heck out of it.
Happy Motoring
GW
Which ever version you buy, enjoy the heck out of it.
That's obviously good advice, but why the hell would you want a Lambo and not want to launch it???This question about e-gear or manual comes up a lot. Which you have is purely down to personal preferance but to say that one lasts longer than the other is not totally the fault of mechanics, its down to the way the cars are driven. They are the same part. An e-gear is programmed to make the up gear changes as effective as possible but via lots of clever logic and mechanical bits all talking to each other, blips the throttle during a down change so that the new gear change occurs with the preselected gear spinning at its ideal rpm to engage and this has the effect of reducing wear on the clutch during down shifts.
Launching the car is the number 1 destructive force on the clutch and therefore the most life limiting procedure.
Second is sitting in traffic with the clutch engaged in an e-gear or riding it in a manual. Its easier to leave it engaged in an e-gear because the car will sit there happily with it engaged with your foot on the brake, whereas in a manual, if you lift the clutch pedal with 1st engaged the car will start to move.
Most of the wear is done at low or no speeds and high torque requirements, like launching, or fast acceleration from very slow speeds or when reversing. Being wary of this when you own the car means that you can, if you choose, modify your technique to look after the clutch and therefore get many more miles out of it.
Tips that were given to me (i have an e-gear and have managed 9000 miles with only 4% wear)include
1) Always put the car in to neautral if you think you are going to come to a stop. If you are still in motion and you want to select a gear, the e-gear will select the gear it thinks you need as determined by its speed, so it could go directly to second for example.
2) It is ok to have it engaged if you think you will only be stationary for a second or 2 but any longer than that, literally, refer to 1 above
3) If sitting stationary in a queue, build up extra distance between you and the car in front before engaging the gear and moving forward, pull forward and then back into neutral again. Sorry if you're sitting behind me but im not delaying your journey at all...... get over it!
4) Never launch it
5) If you have to reverse uphil...... get out and walk!
6) Never Ever launch it
7) I was told by a mechanic at Lamborghini in Italy that it was ok and actually better for the clutch to lift slightly whilst changing up if you are not racing. The inference being that keeping your foot hard down and banging through the gears does create more wear.
8) Dont use automatic mode if stopping and starting continously
9) Dont launch it, you run the risk of looking a complete dick if the clutch disintegrates.
The above seems to have been good advice being as there has been little wear on my clutch. Being able to read the clutch wear is a big bonus on an e-gear but whichever version you go for, enjoy the heck out of it.
Happy Motoring
GW
Which ever version you buy, enjoy the heck out of it.
Like Justin, i've done plenty of miles in e25's Gallardos, both manual and egear.
For me, manual every time. Get heel-and-toeing sorted, and you get the glorious wail of the V10 when you downshift into a corner, and you also get the satisfaction of knowing that you can drive properly unlike these nancy-boy auto driving girls...
I'm joking!!!! Before i get flamed!!
I'm sure egear suits a lot of people, just not me. It doesn't do well in traffic, which is the only reason i'd want an auto. Too jerky.
For me, manual every time. Get heel-and-toeing sorted, and you get the glorious wail of the V10 when you downshift into a corner, and you also get the satisfaction of knowing that you can drive properly unlike these nancy-boy auto driving girls...
I'm joking!!!! Before i get flamed!!
I'm sure egear suits a lot of people, just not me. It doesn't do well in traffic, which is the only reason i'd want an auto. Too jerky.
Beefmeister said:
Like Justin, i've done plenty of miles in e25's Gallardos, both manual and egear.
For me, manual every time. Get heel-and-toeing sorted, and you get the glorious wail of the V10 when you downshift into a corner, and you also get the satisfaction of knowing that you can drive properly unlike these nancy-boy auto driving girls...
I'm joking!!!! Before i get flamed!!
I'm sure egear suits a lot of people, just not me. It doesn't do well in traffic, which is the only reason i'd want an auto. Too jerky.
Heel and toeing................S**t i have enough problems operating one pedal at a time let alone 3!!!!! For me, manual every time. Get heel-and-toeing sorted, and you get the glorious wail of the V10 when you downshift into a corner, and you also get the satisfaction of knowing that you can drive properly unlike these nancy-boy auto driving girls...
I'm joking!!!! Before i get flamed!!
I'm sure egear suits a lot of people, just not me. It doesn't do well in traffic, which is the only reason i'd want an auto. Too jerky.
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