Slight problem with steering column bulkhead bearing
Slight problem with steering column bulkhead bearing
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Gerald-TVR

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4,896 posts

218 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Had the bearing changed a while ago, all has been weel until quite recently when I had the steering coulmn rattle bang and move while in use fixed the problem but it has just reoccured so i'm looking for ideas.

The bearing housing was non standard made of aluminium



and it needed a bush like this



the problem is that the bush has slide down the steering column so its out of the bearing



now I guess it was fitted upside down and ideally I dont ant to remove the steering column to refit so I'm looking for ideas

as a temprorary measure i have fitted a jubilee clip to stop it slipping down but its not very elegant!!



So bright ideas please

Jed-S

660 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Slide the bush in from the top?

phillpot

17,436 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Take it all apart and put it in the right way round ! laugh

spludge

327 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Even a cable tie would look neater than that and do the job just as well smile

Mine was fitted that way round and I think thats how it came from the factory. it certainly didn't look as if anything had ever been replaced in that area.

How about a piece of tubing slid over the triangular shaft? 22mm copper pipe is a good fit, I used a piece to drift the bush in.

K

Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

218 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Its neat enough as theres a steerin rack gator hiding every thing

spludge

327 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Gerald-TVR said:
Its neat enough as theres a steerin rack gator hiding every thing
Yep, thats neat enough. Job Done.

K

ketvrin

3,504 posts

230 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Its not a big job to remove the column and fit it
Right way up Norm... You know you'll not be happy
Until you do it right.
Don't spoil the ship for a ha'peth of tar...
K wink

Le TVR

3,097 posts

272 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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ketvrin said:
fit it
Right way up
Always dangerous to use the word "right" in relation to TVRs...

Mine was originally that way round and there was a spring clip (same section as shaft) that held the bush in place.

Adrian@

4,503 posts

303 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Info really, the bush is held into position by a spring clip, which has a matching internal to the triangular shaft, it is not possible to mount this the wrong way, the inner face of the shell is the back face of the bearing being held in place. Adrian@

ketvrin

3,504 posts

230 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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This forum never fails to inform... you learn something every day.

k getmecoat

tozerman

1,251 posts

248 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Adrian@ said:
the bush is held into position by a spring clip, which has a matching internal to the triangular shaft, it is not possible to mount this the wrong way, the inner face of the shell is the back face of the bearing being held in place. Adrian@
When I did my bulkhead bearing replacement I actually chucked that little clip away like a muppett yikes I fitted my bush the same way as norman and I get the same problem as norman although mine has never come out of the bearing yet as I am always pushing the thing back in, never thought of a cable tie the keep the bush in place but I will get one on as soom as I can.
Cheers.....Tony..

Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Item 4 here - have ordered one from local ford garage will collect next week and let you know finis number etc


tvrgit

8,481 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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ketvrin said:
Don't spoil the ship for a ha'peth of tar...
K wink
You could use the tar to stick the bush in?

mep12345

2,061 posts

222 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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tozerman said:
Adrian@ said:
the bush is held into position by a spring clip, which has a matching internal to the triangular shaft, it is not possible to mount this the wrong way, the inner face of the shell is the back face of the bearing being held in place. Adrian@
When I did my bulkhead bearing replacement I actually chucked that little clip away like a muppett yikes I fitted my bush the same way as norman and I get the same problem as norman although mine has never come out of the bearing yet as I am always pushing the thing back in, never thought of a cable tie the keep the bush in place but I will get one on as soom as I can.
Cheers.....Tony..
Adrian,

Mine has been replaced by one from TVR car parts, including a new surrounding housing and it certainly could be fitted both ways around, as I thought the same as you've said above but ended up reversing my first fitting for the reasons below. Hence I wonder whether this could be differences in after market makes as I know you must have done many in your time so I'd normally bow to your opinion.

However, the reason I know mine would fit either way around is because I removed the old one - forgot to note the direction and re-fitted it the same way round as Norman. I then remembered I had a copy of the picture posted above, which has the bearing the other way around, so I reversed it and it has been in that position ever since (i.e. the opposite way round to norms photos, but the same as the iso diagram with the "flanged wider section" (top in Norms photo of the bush alone) of the bush to the inside of the car).

It doesn't move and seems to work ok and has been in place for over 3000 miles and 18 months. I didn't replace the spring clip as I thought it was just to stop the column from being accidentally withdrawn and it's in my box of bits now but even this hasn't had any difference.

Would love to know the correct orientation though

Mark

Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Done it again!!!!



now all we need is a discussion about expansion tanks, swirl pots, pressure caps and non pressure caps

getmecoat

mep12345

2,061 posts

222 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Adrian@

4,503 posts

303 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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All,
Having never ever ever worked on a Ford Sierra....I can only reference against the TVR's that I've worked on AND I presume that the early cars (I have no knowledge of numbers here) must of been fitted with the bush as in the pictorial for the Ford along with the other 3 items as the bulkhead bush.
When and where the bearing and the TVR plastic housing appears I do not know BUT, it was initially fitted as an upgrade that I would buy in from the factory, with all the parts to do the job, IF needed I would ring the service dept. and check with them re how these things fitted BUT it was more likely that the part would of already hit the production line and you would reference a later model!......in answer then!! When the Ford early item is fitted then as in the pictorial and as the upgrade/bearing it is fitted externally with the spring clip.
Adrian@

clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Is it not possible to carefully put a a groove (small) on the peaks of the corners on the shaft and fit a circlip?? Just a thought.

Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Perhaps this is a better illustration from TVR Spares list which shows the change over and the date!






swimmer27

482 posts

203 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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I replaced mine in July this year as it was an advisory at the MOT, bought the kit from TVR Car parts but had to do a slight mod to fit it but has made such a difference.
The old one I removed (picture) was knackered, the bush had worn away because the so called bearing was just a static plastic ring which meant the bush just rubbed against the bearing causing the wear.
Took me about 2 hours to do the job as I have lower back issues so found it a bit uncomfortable, I thought about removing the drivers seat but this became useful for resting the steering column on.



Edited by swimmer27 on Thursday 19th November 22:12