5 Speed clutch needed

[TuxMan]

While the engine is out and Mr Gearbox man is rebuilding my gearbox i need to purchase a new 5 speed clutch, can anyone tell me where to get one ? are they Noble only . thanks Simon

[daddysumo]

Send it to Helix or Mardi Gras who are an agent,Helix will uprate it and recon it, and its around £300 so all is good !

HTH
Steve

[TuxMan]

Wow , thats great news ....tell me more ?? where are helix ?? make a change for something to cost less than budget !!!

[RobP]

daddysumo said:

Send it to Helix or Mardi Gras who are an agent,Helix will uprate it and recon it, and its around £300 so all is good !

HTH
Steve

..or pay £354+VAT for a brand one inc thrust bearing (that's for a 6 speed). I personally didn't have any joy with Helix- kept phoning them; but they would never phone back. Gave up in the end and brought a new one for not a lot more than re-conning the old one.

[TuxMan]

been quoted best part of £500 for a new one !!! bit supprised its more than a 6 speed unit !! where did you get it from Rob ?

[jdearden]

tux you got there before me this was going to be my next question. helix sounds like a good option. do the uprate it aswell. sorry to hijack a lil bit but where can you get the clutch release bearing from (thrust bearing)

[peterguk M500]

5 spped clutch here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOBLE-M12-CLUTCH-KIT-5-SPEED...

I had Helix uprate my clutch. Great service.

[daddysumo]

jdearden said:

tux you got there before me this was going to be my next question. helix sounds like a good option. do the uprate it aswell. sorry to hijack a lil bit but where can you get the clutch release bearing from (thrust bearing)

Clutch release bearing assy(includes slave cylinder) is a standard Ford Mondeo ST220 part.

[Gadgeroonie]

hi steve

are you sure its an off the shelf part, i was led to believe it was not stock ?

[TuxMan]

Hi Peter , did they upgrade your std clutch from new or recondition ?? (still want adapter just been upto my neck in it !!)

[daddysumo]

Gadgeroonie said:

hi steve

are you sure its an off the shelf part, i was led to believe it was not stock ?

Well thats what was in my 3R and thats what I have put back, done over 1k miles already and all is ok.
How could it not be a stock ford part ?

Steve

[Gadgeroonie]

cool

i read in the build manual that it was not stock

is the assembly expensive ?

[daddysumo]

Gadgeroonie said:

cool

i read in the build manual that it was not stock

is the assembly expensive ?

The American build manual, they probably use a clutch with different shaped fingers so have to use a bigger dia flat edged bearing face not rounded like ours ?

I think it retails between around £150 ish .

Steve

[peterguk M500]

TuxMan said:

Hi Peter , did they upgrade your std clutch from new or recondition ?? (still want adapter just been upto my neck in it !!)

Well it was going to be reconditioned, but when it was dismantled, it was found that many of the rivets had split the aluminium pressure plate, so i had a new billet pressure plate made with a 6 puck driven plate. About £350ish.

[peterguk M500]

Gadgeroonie said:

hi steve

are you sure its an off the shelf part, i was led to believe it was not stock ?

Prices from the factory:

5 speed - £145.00
6 speed - £199.00

I know the 6 speed is a modified AP Racing part, don't know about the 5 speed.

Same parts for UK and USA cars, i've recently sent a couple to Hoover.

[daddysumo]

peterguk M500 said:

Gadgeroonie said:

hi steve

are you sure its an off the shelf part, i was led to believe it was not stock ?

Prices from the factory:

5 speed - £145.00
6 speed - £199.00

I know the 6 speed is a modified AP Racing part, don't know about the 5 speed.

Same parts for UK and USA cars, i've recently sent a couple to Hoover.

Pete

The clutch release bearing assy is an AP part ? Are you sure ?

Steve

[Gadgeroonie]

does anyone know what the american clutch used is ?

it would appear it is rated higher than ours

[peterguk M500]

daddysumo said:

peterguk M500 said:

Gadgeroonie said:

hi steve

are you sure its an off the shelf part, i was led to believe it was not stock ?

Prices from the factory:

5 speed - £145.00
6 speed - £199.00

I know the 6 speed is a modified AP Racing part, don't know about the 5 speed.

Same parts for UK and USA cars, i've recently sent a couple to Hoover.

Pete

The clutch release bearing assy is an AP part ? Are you sure ?

Steve

I unpacked them and re-packed to send to Hoover. In AP yellow and blue boxes..

[TuxMan]

my box is laying on the floor , will remove it and see if there is a ford part no on it .

[TuxMan]

ok , spoke to the Lotus Center , new clutch without thrust bearing !! £437.28 ....................spoke to Stuart at Mardi-gra ...to re-engineer std clutch as new with a 20% upgrade in power handling capabilitys ...less than a new one !!! looks like Helix is the way to go !!!