Bank Holiday and wages
Discussion
Hi All,
My girlfriend started a new job a few months ago but has gone into work today to find out that her december wages are going to be paid a day late.
She is normally paid on the 28th of each month but as it is the "Boxing day bank holiday" this year, her employers are saying she will get paid the day after? I thought they had to bring it forward not put it back? What if she had direct debits that go out on the 29th of the month?
The company is a medium sized residential care provider.
Thanks,
Matt.
My girlfriend started a new job a few months ago but has gone into work today to find out that her december wages are going to be paid a day late.
She is normally paid on the 28th of each month but as it is the "Boxing day bank holiday" this year, her employers are saying she will get paid the day after? I thought they had to bring it forward not put it back? What if she had direct debits that go out on the 29th of the month?
The company is a medium sized residential care provider.
Thanks,
Matt.
Is this some kind of wind up? What the hell difference does one day make to getting paid? Get an overdraft for a day? If you're that skint, don't eat out or go out for a weekend or two.
Grow up and join the real world. I've had to wait up to 18 months to get invoices paid.
Tough old world isn't it?
Grow up and join the real world. I've had to wait up to 18 months to get invoices paid.
Tough old world isn't it?
Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 1st December 22:31
Silver993tt said:
Is this some kind of wind up? What the hell difference does one day make to getting paid? Get an overdraft for a day? If you're that skint, don't eat out or go out for a weekend or two.
Grow up and join the real world. I've had to wait up to 18 months to get invoices paid.
Tough old world isn't it?
Harsh!Grow up and join the real world. I've had to wait up to 18 months to get invoices paid.
Tough old world isn't it?
Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 1st December 22:31
If you have contract that says you will get paid on the 28th and the company can't fulfil that part of the contract then I think it's fair to feel a little aggrieved.
In this instance I'd expect to be paid on the 24th, and it's what I would do for my employees.
In fact, in every place where I have been an employee we've always been paid early in December. In one place they even paid us early in January as well so there wasn't such a long gap between December and January pay days.
Silver993tt,
I am sorry but what is so wrong about my question? We do not have access to credit so easily and with it being Xmas, i have only ever been paid early rather than late.
I wish we could afford to go out once a month, but we are not that well off.
Thanks.
If you have contract that says you will get paid on the 28th and the company can't fulfil that part of the contract then I think it's fair to feel a little aggrieved.
In this instance I'd expect to be paid on the 24th, and it's what I would do for my employees.
In fact, in every place where I have been an employee we've always been paid early in December. In one place they even paid us early in January as well so there wasn't such a long gap between December and January pay days.
I am sorry but what is so wrong about my question? We do not have access to credit so easily and with it being Xmas, i have only ever been paid early rather than late.
I wish we could afford to go out once a month, but we are not that well off.
Thanks.
mouseymousey said:
Silver993tt said:
Is this some kind of wind up? What the hell difference does one day make to getting paid? Get an overdraft for a day? If you're that skint, don't eat out or go out for a weekend or two.
Grow up and join the real world. I've had to wait up to 18 months to get invoices paid.
Tough old world isn't it?
Harsh!Grow up and join the real world. I've had to wait up to 18 months to get invoices paid.
Tough old world isn't it?
Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 1st December 22:31
If you have contract that says you will get paid on the 28th and the company can't fulfil that part of the contract then I think it's fair to feel a little aggrieved.
In this instance I'd expect to be paid on the 24th, and it's what I would do for my employees.
In fact, in every place where I have been an employee we've always been paid early in December. In one place they even paid us early in January as well so there wasn't such a long gap between December and January pay days.
She could ask (nicely) for a loan against her wages from her employers to cover any outgoings scheduled for the 29th? Alternatively if there are none scheduled I would suggest that you look to avoiding any conflict which might jeopardize her position either directly or indirectly. (People have long memories and they may not look at your GF as being responsible if 24 hours causes a fiscal issue).
Or like any sensible person.
Set up your direct debits to come out a week after you get paid to deal with this potential situation.
I used to get paid by cheque regularly by one company as they frequently forgot to put the money in.
That was three days to clear it even if they gave you the cheque on payday.
Leave some room.
Set up your direct debits to come out a week after you get paid to deal with this potential situation.
I used to get paid by cheque regularly by one company as they frequently forgot to put the money in.
That was three days to clear it even if they gave you the cheque on payday.
Leave some room.
there's some very childish replies to this thread, especially the one saying "grow up", wake up on the wrong side of the bed that morning.....
Its a straight forward and understandable question, my understanding has always been that if your pay date falls on a weekend or bank holiday they legally have to pay you the working day before that, so in your example i'd expect payment on 24th.
Having a look around though, and speaking to HR at work there doesn't seem to be any law concerning this, its just that some companies are nice. I've always been paid the day before a weekend/bank holiday, and for the exact reasons you've stated, thats the way it should be.
DD's/standing orders cannot always be changed, like my rent payment, my landlord will not let me change the date as he has his own bills to pay, its not always as straightforward as you think.
Its a straight forward and understandable question, my understanding has always been that if your pay date falls on a weekend or bank holiday they legally have to pay you the working day before that, so in your example i'd expect payment on 24th.
Having a look around though, and speaking to HR at work there doesn't seem to be any law concerning this, its just that some companies are nice. I've always been paid the day before a weekend/bank holiday, and for the exact reasons you've stated, thats the way it should be.
DD's/standing orders cannot always be changed, like my rent payment, my landlord will not let me change the date as he has his own bills to pay, its not always as straightforward as you think.
Stupeo said:
Silver993tt,
I am sorry but what is so wrong about my question? We do not have access to credit so easily and with it being Xmas, i have only ever been paid early rather than late.
I wish we could afford to go out once a month, but we are not that well off.
Thanks.
If you have contract that says you will get paid on the 28th and the company can't fulfil that part of the contract then I think it's fair to feel a little aggrieved.
In this instance I'd expect to be paid on the 24th, and it's what I would do for my employees.
In fact, in every place where I have been an employee we've always been paid early in December. In one place they even paid us early in January as well so there wasn't such a long gap between December and January pay days.
So you've been paid early before and now one or two days late. I assume you didn't give the money back when it arrived early? I am sorry but what is so wrong about my question? We do not have access to credit so easily and with it being Xmas, i have only ever been paid early rather than late.
I wish we could afford to go out once a month, but we are not that well off.
Thanks.
mouseymousey said:
Silver993tt said:
Is this some kind of wind up? What the hell difference does one day make to getting paid? Get an overdraft for a day? If you're that skint, don't eat out or go out for a weekend or two.
Grow up and join the real world. I've had to wait up to 18 months to get invoices paid.
Tough old world isn't it?
Harsh!Grow up and join the real world. I've had to wait up to 18 months to get invoices paid.
Tough old world isn't it?
Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 1st December 22:31
If you have contract that says you will get paid on the 28th and the company can't fulfil that part of the contract then I think it's fair to feel a little aggrieved.
In this instance I'd expect to be paid on the 24th, and it's what I would do for my employees.
In fact, in every place where I have been an employee we've always been paid early in December. In one place they even paid us early in January as well so there wasn't such a long gap between December and January pay days.
Just be grateful that you have any kind of employment right now, many don't.
Stupeo said:
As it happens, she has no DD's due out for a week after she gets paid but i was asking are her employers allowed to do this?
Yes they are. It's not really fair but how far do you want to take it and will it do her any good? As mentioned previously, it's only 24 hours fella.Gillet said:
there's some very childish replies to this thread, especially the one saying "grow up", wake up on the wrong side of the bed that morning.....
Its a straight forward and understandable question, my understanding has always been that if your pay date falls on a weekend or bank holiday they legally have to pay you the working day before that, so in your example i'd expect payment on 24th.
Having a look around though, and speaking to HR at work there doesn't seem to be any law concerning this, its just that some companies are nice. I've always been paid the day before a weekend/bank holiday, and for the exact reasons you've stated, thats the way it should be.
DD's/standing orders cannot always be changed, like my rent payment, my landlord will not let me change the date as he has his own bills to pay, its not always as straightforward as you think.
Unless the contract of employment states a particular pay date each month then the employer can pay when they please (within reason). Most firms pay early at Christmas. They don't have to.Its a straight forward and understandable question, my understanding has always been that if your pay date falls on a weekend or bank holiday they legally have to pay you the working day before that, so in your example i'd expect payment on 24th.
Having a look around though, and speaking to HR at work there doesn't seem to be any law concerning this, its just that some companies are nice. I've always been paid the day before a weekend/bank holiday, and for the exact reasons you've stated, thats the way it should be.
DD's/standing orders cannot always be changed, like my rent payment, my landlord will not let me change the date as he has his own bills to pay, its not always as straightforward as you think.
PAYE folk really do seem to run their finances down to the wire, then when the tiniest thing goes wrong (as now) they go overdrawn and cop bank charges. You really would be advised to build up a small cushion against contingencies - if not this year then next year! At least then you can sleep easier and not worry about a day or two.
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