RE: Briatore's Motorsport Ban Overturned
Tuesday 5th January 2010
Former Renault F1 boss Flavio Briatore could be set to return to motorsport after the French high court overturned the FIA's decision to ban him from the sport for life.
Briatore's Motorsport Ban Overturned
Former Renault F1 chief's lifetime ban gets overturned by French high court
Briatore was issued with lifetime ban by the FIA for his part in the controversy surrounding the 2008 Singagpore Grand Prix, where Renault driver Nelson Piquet Jr deliberately crashed his car in order to force a safety car period.
Briatore's lawyers argued that the FIA had contravened its own international sporting code in some of the procedures it followed during the investigation into the affair.
Discussion
stin said:
stephen300o said:
Good news, it was too heavy handed.
Why? The man is a cheat and therefore should not be part of the sport!I am not a fan of Briatore, but that does not mean I think the FAI were right in their political vendetta against him.
what you might want to remember here is who's idea was it to crash in the first place....(by his own admission)
stin said:
stephen300o said:
Good news, it was too heavy handed.
Why? The man is a cheat and therefore should not be part of the sport!Don't know why this reply went to another thread starter so I've moved it here;
As others have said....... in a way I am glad. It's not that I condone what Briatore did - it's just that the FIA punishment felt more like a personal vendetta launched by Moseley than a measured reaction. In fact, very much like what happened to Mclaran a couple of years ago. As I say I don't admire Briatore's actions but I liked Moseley's vindictive reaction less. Let's hope the FIA finally gets its act together under Todt and starts acting more like a grown up authority.
PS as a QPR fan this is good news - the last thing QPR need right now is another dose on instability in the boardroom
As others have said....... in a way I am glad. It's not that I condone what Briatore did - it's just that the FIA punishment felt more like a personal vendetta launched by Moseley than a measured reaction. In fact, very much like what happened to Mclaran a couple of years ago. As I say I don't admire Briatore's actions but I liked Moseley's vindictive reaction less. Let's hope the FIA finally gets its act together under Todt and starts acting more like a grown up authority.
PS as a QPR fan this is good news - the last thing QPR need right now is another dose on instability in the boardroom
Scuffers said:
what you might want to remember here is who's idea was it to crash in the first place....(by his own admission)
That is irrelevant! But on that subject, I understood that Nelson blamed Flav and Pat Which Pat denied then Pat blamed Nelson.Fact is he was the top dog in the team and knew what was going on so therefore is a cheat! He could have said no and stopped the whole thing but he wanted goldenballs to win more than he valued his own honesty and integrity
Talking of people being (potentially) unemployable in F1 as a a result of sanctions etc... what happened to the Ferrari guy- Nigel Stepney (?)who was involved in the "specification sharing" episode with McLaren ? Likewise the guy at McLaren who allegedly saw the papers ?
Are they both still in F1 ? If they are it sort of shows there's always a market for certain talents
Are they both still in F1 ? If they are it sort of shows there's always a market for certain talents
Cue pages of posts from those that don't understand the concept of abuse of process and can't differentiate between justice being done correctly and the acts of those involved. 
I'm glad it's been overturned, I think I've also seen referenct to Pat Symond's being overturned as well.
The FIA had no authority to impost a ban of this nature, duration and extent, they overstepped the mark in a significant manner.
I'm glad it's been overturned, I think I've also seen referenct to Pat Symond's being overturned as well.
The FIA had no authority to impost a ban of this nature, duration and extent, they overstepped the mark in a significant manner.
PiB said:
So that means the FIA have to follow French law in every other country they race at?
The FIA race rules are what they are - the issue here is that they punished a man who had not been tried properly, let alone found guilty.The original hearing was in Paris I think, so the court case location is merely a logical continuation of that.
Briatore may well deserve some form of punishment, but that is not the issue in this case.
sprinter1050 said:
Talking of people being (potentially) unemployable in F1 as a a result of sanctions etc... what happened to the Ferrari guy- Nigel Stepney (?)who was involved in the "specification sharing" episode with McLaren ? Likewise the guy at McLaren who allegedly saw the papers ?
Are they both still in F1 ? If they are it sort of shows there's always a market for certain talents
Stepney was working for Gigawave running Nissan GTR's in the FIA GT championship. Coughlan I have no idea.Are they both still in F1 ? If they are it sort of shows there's always a market for certain talents
Disappointing the Flab could now pursue his driver management company as a way back into F1, as surely no team will touch him!
Wonder where it leaves Pat Symonds?
Piglet said:
The FIA had no authority to impost a ban of this nature, duration and extent, they overstepped the mark in a significant manner.
I disagree!! From what I understand (and if I’m wrong I retract the following) the FIA gave him a lifetime ban from any FIA sanctioned event! Why is that overstepping the mark? All they are saying is any event they are involved with he cannot be part off which I think they are well within there rights to do so and therefore guaranteeing the integrity, as best they can, of any FIA event. Perfectly legitimate in my eyes.Edited by stin on Tuesday 5th January 17:24
sprinter1050 said:
Talking of people being (potentially) unemployable in F1 as a a result of sanctions etc... what happened to the Ferrari guy- Nigel Stepney (?)who was involved in the "specification sharing" episode with McLaren ? Likewise the guy at McLaren who allegedly saw the papers ?
Are they both still in F1 ? If they are it sort of shows there's always a market for certain talents
Nigel Stepney is either Technical Director of Team Manager of the Vitaphone Maserati MC12 team. Are they both still in F1 ? If they are it sort of shows there's always a market for certain talents
Mike Coughlan was rumoured to be a part of the Stefan GP joke.
PiB said:
How can a French court have jurisdiction over something that is more like a club membership list? Most driving clubs/associations have rules written in their contracts that you have to follow certain rules or risk not being allowed at/on the track.
I was thinking along similar lines. How can a French court oveturn an INTERNATIONAL association? That would be like them being able to turn over the UN! (Okay maybe not in the same league, but you get the point.) Could the ban still be in effect outside of France? Sounds ridiculous to me.bobberz said:
PiB said:
How can a French court have jurisdiction over something that is more like a club membership list? Most driving clubs/associations have rules written in their contracts that you have to follow certain rules or risk not being allowed at/on the track.
I was thinking along similar lines. How can a French court oveturn an INTERNATIONAL association? That would be like them being able to turn over the UN! (Okay maybe not in the same league, but you get the point.) Could the ban still be in effect outside of France? Sounds ridiculous to me.Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff