cable tie snow chains?

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GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Roping is a better idea, using synthetic 'BT' rope.

cheddar

4,637 posts

173 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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I'm rooting for ya Rob.

Take some pics though eh.

Roo

11,503 posts

206 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Thinking about importing a load of this to sell next winter.




Snoop Bagg

1,879 posts

193 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Crusoe said:
The main issues here are, thats a push bike weighing approx 100kg, where a car on average weighs around 1500Kg, not to mention torque and if it hits the road once and grips the ties will just snap unless they're metal which obviously wouldn't be good for the tyre.

Best solutions are generally the "carpet trick" which is essentially what happens to stuck desert vehicles, snow chains, or even the cords which come with those mini versions of tank straps that hauliers use wrapped around the wheel:


Leccy

481 posts

190 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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MarJay said:
I don't know why everyone is acting as if it is a completely dumb idea. It is a well known 'get you home' mod for motorcycles to tie pieces of string around the wheels which seems to be about as crazy.
Is it? I've had motorcycles for over 30 years and never heard of it. String you say? How long does a bit of string last?


MarJay

2,173 posts

174 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Leccy said:
Is it? I've had motorcycles for over 30 years and never heard of it. String you say? How long does a bit of string last?
Long enough in deep snow I'm told. Its in the RiDE magazine little book of motorcycling emergencies from a couple of years back, and I was told by various scottish bikers on internet forums.

rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

226 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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Snoop Bagg said:
Crusoe said:
The main issues here are, thats a push bike weighing approx 100kg, where a car on average weighs around 1500Kg, not to mention torque and if it hits the road once and grips the ties will just snap unless they're metal which obviously wouldn't be good for the tyre.
yikes

Presumably you are referring to one of those high-tech pig-iron bikes with the solid stone wheels?

Leccy

481 posts

190 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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MarJay said:
Leccy said:
Is it? I've had motorcycles for over 30 years and never heard of it. String you say? How long does a bit of string last?



Long enough in deep snow I'm told. Its in the RiDE magazine little book of motorcycling emergencies from a couple of years back, and I was told by various scottish bikers on internet forums.
I've lived in Scotland for many years and ridden a bike in deep snow (once when it was too deep to get the car out) I've never seen or heard of anyone up here using string. I reckon it would last about one revolution of the wheel. If the wheel is spinning on snow and you rellied on string to grip, if the string DID grip it would be torn off in a second as the wheel went round.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

203 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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rocksteadyeddie said:
Snoop Bagg said:
Crusoe said:
The main issues here are, thats a push bike weighing approx 100kg, where a car on average weighs around 1500Kg, not to mention torque and if it hits the road once and grips the ties will just snap unless they're metal which obviously wouldn't be good for the tyre.
yikes

Presumably you are referring to one of those high-tech pig-iron bikes with the solid stone wheels?
I'm assuming he means bike with rider on it.

The Riddler

6,565 posts

196 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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Superdry said:
Try using the cable ties as spring compressors too and let us know how you get on.
whistle


LFO

88 posts

173 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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I reckon a supersized tie-wrap inverted (so the teeth are facing outwards) on the rim (without tyre) would be pretty good. loads of them, mind.

Tie wraps and bubble wrap have the same addictive qualities, so I wouldn't mind however many it takes.


On a slightly more serious note, Tie wraps would fall apart on a tyre in seconds. Snow or not. They didn't hold up my exhaust very well, so driving on snow under the power of plastic tie wraps wouldn't inspire my confidence whilst sliding into oncoming traffic. "My driving is fine officer, it's just these damn tie-wraps".

biggrinbiggrin

Edited by LFO on Saturday 16th January 03:10

CooperS

4,494 posts

218 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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gib6933 said:
I did this on a z4 once trying to get up a muddy hill in a field.



It didn't like it very much it had a hissy fit, then all the light on the dash lit up.







Miss that car frown



Edited by gib6933 on Thursday 14th January 20:20
u killed it by using cable ties wtf happened!

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

203 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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If i had some snow i would try it out as i have a crappy fiesta that would be a perfect car to try it on

eliot

11,349 posts

253 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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Crusoe said:
When I was a kid after coming back from a skiing holiday and seeing snow chains for the first time - I got (stole from dad) some very thick insultated copper wire and threaded it through my wheel as a above. Worked really well, but only going forwards - no sideways grip at-all.

rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

226 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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Roo said:
Thinking about importing a load of this to sell next winter.

Does it work though? Looks like it could be one of those great ideas in theory that is utterly useless in practice.

pacman1

7,318 posts

192 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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Provided you can loop them through the wheel holes and they don't foul the calipers etc, it might work quite well short term. You can get heavy duty ones 12.7mm wide for heavy duty LV cable applications.

edit, spurling.

Edited by pacman1 on Saturday 16th January 09:26

wolf1

3,081 posts

249 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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LFO said:
On a slightly more serious note, Tie wraps would fall apart on a tyre in seconds. Snow or not. They didn't hold up my exhaust very well
That's because exhausts get very hot and plastic has a tendency to melt when in contact with a hot surface.

Libertine

3,891 posts

175 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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Somebloke on an E-Bay forum said:
a few years back I was stuck & didn't have any tyresocks (they'd worn out & we hardly got any snow here to justify buying any more!). I just happened to have a huge wad of very large cable ties that just happened to fall into my tool box.
I strapped a load around both front wheels (through the rim and around the tyre) to act as temporary chains - they really did the business although they quickly wore out as I reached the tarmac road but they really got me out of a spot.
Not that there's any snow where I am, anymore.
smile


RichB

51,383 posts

283 months

Saturday 16th January 2010
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rocksteadyeddie said:
Roo said:
Thinking about importing a load of this to sell next winter.

Does it work though? Looks like it could be one of those great ideas in theory that is utterly useless in practice.
On the tin it says you spray it on in bands around the tyre and lasts about 100 miles for emergency use...

LFO

88 posts

173 months

Sunday 17th January 2010
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wolf1 said:
LFO said:
On a slightly more serious note, Tie wraps would fall apart on a tyre in seconds. Snow or not. They didn't hold up my exhaust very well
That's because exhausts get very hot and plastic has a tendency to melt when in contact with a hot surface.
They were a replacement for missing rubbers, I wouldn't wrap something made of plastic around an exhaust!