Trailing Arm Differences

Trailing Arm Differences

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Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

197 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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Having both S2 (described by Adrian Ven as S 1.5) and S3 offside trailing arms availabe I toook the opportunity to compare them. I have seen photos/diagrams in the past of individual arms and heard about the differences but saw this as an opportunity to illusrate the differences.

The different mouting points for the shock absorbers are clear to see as is the adjustable inner mount





magpies

5,129 posts

182 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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Hi Norman - which one is which?

my S1(?) has ones identical to the white ones

I still don't know if mine is an S1, S2 or S 1.5

tvrgit

8,472 posts

252 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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white one is S3, with separate adjustable inner bush mounting, red one is S2.

Gerald-TVR

Original Poster:

4,896 posts

197 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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Andrew is spot on

tvrgit

8,472 posts

252 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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Gerald-TVR said:
Andrew is spot on
Should hope so, seeing as I spent ages working this all out for the Sprint article!

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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Better take my own medicine and add reference info to an older post. Herewith photos of an S1 arm. Fixed bushes at chassis mountings and apparently same damper position as S2. Shown after restoration by Adrian Venn.




Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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I'd concur with that.

From what I've seen so far, S1 and S2 are largely the same suspension-wise. S3, S4 and V8S are all pretty similar again.

DamianS3

1,803 posts

182 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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As I understand it the S4 and v8 are the same part.

Could be wrong as not compared side to side.

Damian

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

182 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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Hi All
Has anyone had S1 trailing arms cut and fitted the adjustment flanges.

Alan

magpies

5,129 posts

182 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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Alan Whitaker said:
Hi All
Has anyone had S1 trailing arms cut and fitted the adjustment flanges.

Alan
mine may well be.....done by previous owner so no details. Can send photos though

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

182 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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Hi All.
Are there any ++++'s on doing this?


Alan

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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Adjustable rear toe in or out.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th March 2014
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But surely, on an S1, if you adjust the position/angle of the inner bearing it would no longer line up with the outer bearing?

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

182 months

Monday 31st March 2014
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Hi All
I should have asked if the toe adjustment make a lot of difference to the car, I have been looking for the factory spec for this, could not find it, I know someone will know it. I would think if the chassis moves it could be used to bring it back but you can only adjust it it one way unless it had 10 mm of shims and spacers in it.


Just found this http://www.tvrsseries.com/datasheets/TV2C4B7E.PDF

Alan




Edited by Alan Whitaker on Monday 31st March 08:33

Adrian@

4,309 posts

282 months

Monday 31st March 2014
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In the days of the factory...IF as an owner of an S1-2 you ordered a trailing arm from the factory, they came as a pair of S3 arms, my customers paid for one arm and all the associated bushes, shims etc for 2 arms, AND shocks/spring to suit the S3 setup AND you got the second arm FOC (you were required to send the old arms back to the factory).
I know I have done the conversion in the past (as in the factory method) but unless you already have spring seat adjustable shocks, then that is something you need to dial into your budget.
Adrian@

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

182 months

Monday 31st March 2014
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Hi Adrian,
Do yo have to change the spring seat mountings?, if so why

Thanks

Alan

Adrian@

4,309 posts

282 months

Monday 31st March 2014
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The difference across the models of trailing arm relates to how the shock is mounted onto the trailing arm, this moves further back, There are 3 fixed track versions (S1/S1.5/S2 the S2 has the S3 shock pick up point), eventually you get adjustable S3 and adjustable with wider track S4/V8S...on the 3 fixed versions there are different seats heights on the shock (IMHO same spring) allowing the difference leverage points on the arm to be set correctly in relation to the car ride height ... tramping creates a torque twist in the 2" tube ( my thoughts are that IF the weld seam of the 2" tube happens to be at the bottom, you get accelerated rust related failure...I have seen them split in a linear fashion with too much regularity for that not to be the cause) and TVR put the mounting to a stronger place on the C section, with a gusset over the back.
So cars with adjustable track need the correct matching shock setup, or to add the adjustable track arm you need to have adjustable spring seats.
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 31st March 23:39