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wombat172a

1,400 posts

63 months

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According to Warranty Direct, http://www.gizmag.com/go/5657/ these are the most 100 reliable cars from the last decade:

1 Honda Accord
2 Subaru Forester
3 Mazda MX-5
4 Mitsubishi Carisma
5 Toyota Yaris
6 Honda Civic
7 Nissan Almera
8 Honda CR-V
9 Toyota RAV4
10 Nissan Micra
11 Lexus IS 200
12 Mazda 626
13 Jaguar X-Type
14 Toyota Landcruiser
15 Volvo S/V40
16 MINI (BMW)
17 Suzuki Vitara
18 Mazda 323
19 Toyota Carina E
20 Saab 9-5
21 Lexus LS400
22 Ford Ka
23 Rover 45
24 Hyundai Lantra
25 Mercedes SLK
26 Citroen Xsara
27 Ford Cougar
28 Subaru Impreza
29 Skoda Octavia
30 Audi A4
31 Nissan Primera
32 Toyota Avensis
33 Volvo 850
34 Vauxhall Corsa
35 Seat Toledo
36 Volkswagen Golf
37 Daewoo Lanos
38 Fiat Brava
39 Hyundai Coupe
40 Mitsubishi Shogun
41 Rover 25
42 Mercedes CLK
43 Fiat Marea
44 Ford Focus
45 Peugeot 106
46 MG MG TF
47 BMW Z3
48 Hyundai Accent
49 Volkswagen Polo
50 Fiat Punto
51 Vauxhall Zafira
52 Mercedes C-class
53 Volvo S60
54 Toyota MR2
55 Mazda Xedos 6
56 Ford Puma
57 Vauxhall Astra
58 Vauxhall Omega
59 Chrysler Neon
60 Audi A2
61 Ford Fiesta
62 Ford Mondeo
63 Vauxhall Corsa
64 Citroen Saxo
65 BMW 3 Series
66 Vauxhall Vectra
67 Isuzu Trooper
68 Mercedes M-Class
69 Subaru Legacy
70 Rover 400
71 Fiat Ulysse
72 Mercedes E-Class
73 Renault Clio
74 Toyota Celica
75 Peugeot 306
76 Peugeot 406
77 Volvo S70
78 Rover 75
79 Daewoo Matiz
80 Peugeot 206
81 Mazda MX-3
82 Vauxhall Tigra
83 Seat Ibiza
84 Peugeot 106
85 Renault Megane
86 Peugeot 406
87 Saab 9-3
88 Audi A3
89 BMW X5
90 Mercedes S-class
91 Toyota Corolla
92 Seat Alhambra
93 BMW 5-series
94 Daewoo Nubira
95 Alfa Romeo 145
96 Saab 900
97 Mazda MX-6
98 Jaguar S-Type
99 Daewoo Leganza
100 Porsche Boxster


Of course this should be taken with a pinch of salt, but it does give some comparison. So I suppose if you're after the most basic & reliable car, just look at some of the most boring one's on that list.

Try a Daewoo Lanos S, 1.4 litre single overhead cam GM engine, suspension from a Mk2 astra, no cd player, no electric windows, mirrors, and a NCAP rating of 2.5 stars. Perfect! thumbup

300bhp/ton

29,629 posts

70 months

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hora said:
eldar said:
You aren't going to find a new car without ECU controlled injection and ignition.

Are you looking for cheap to own/run, or something else?
Cheap to own and run. I'd service it myself.

On the Landrover front. I owned a Subaru Forester and was sick of replacing parts; clutch, loose heatshield, coolant prob, driveshaft failure, cv boots, drop links, bushings, drivers electric window. That was my car for life but I became sick of renewing parts.

This also never broke down and always got me home- just had something new that needed attention soon.
I thonk you must be living in clouds if you think you can get a car that won't need bits or maintenance.

A Landy is not a bad suggestion as they are easy to work and all bits are avaiable. But parts will still wear and need replacing. But that's because a car, any car is quite a complex machine with lots of parts and most are used heavily and abused.

HereBeMonsters

12,225 posts

62 months

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Why all this clamour to not have an ECU? In my experience they're more reliable and easier to maintain than carbs...

joshc

431 posts

52 months

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The old Ford Ka fits the bill, (except it has an ECU) - but you could get a base model which doesn't have many electrics. Just watch out for the rust.

hora

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17,815 posts

91 months

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300bhp/ton said:
hora said:
eldar said:
You aren't going to find a new car without ECU controlled injection and ignition.

Are you looking for cheap to own/run, or something else?
Cheap to own and run. I'd service it myself.

On the Landrover front. I owned a Subaru Forester and was sick of replacing parts; clutch, loose heatshield, coolant prob, driveshaft failure, cv boots, drop links, bushings, drivers electric window. That was my car for life but I became sick of renewing parts.

This also never broke down and always got me home- just had something new that needed attention soon.
I thonk you must be living in clouds if you think you can get a car that won't need bits or maintenance.

A Landy is not a bad suggestion as they are easy to work and all bits are avaiable. But parts will still wear and need replacing. But that's because a car, any car is quite a complex machine with lots of parts and most are used heavily and abused.
Bits of maintenance yes. Not every month there is something new to look into on google or ooo what could we expect to see next lottery.

I fully expected the gearbox to give me jip next. Why not? Everything else was having its turn wink
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300bhp/ton

29,629 posts

70 months

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hora said:
300bhp/ton said:
hora said:
eldar said:
You aren't going to find a new car without ECU controlled injection and ignition.

Are you looking for cheap to own/run, or something else?
Cheap to own and run. I'd service it myself.

On the Landrover front. I owned a Subaru Forester and was sick of replacing parts; clutch, loose heatshield, coolant prob, driveshaft failure, cv boots, drop links, bushings, drivers electric window. That was my car for life but I became sick of renewing parts.

This also never broke down and always got me home- just had something new that needed attention soon.
I thonk you must be living in clouds if you think you can get a car that won't need bits or maintenance.

A Landy is not a bad suggestion as they are easy to work and all bits are avaiable. But parts will still wear and need replacing. But that's because a car, any car is quite a complex machine with lots of parts and most are used heavily and abused.
Bits of maintenance yes. Not every month there is something new to look into on google or ooo what could we expect to see next lottery.

I fully expected the gearbox to give me jip next. Why not? Everything else was having its turn wink
Lol I sort of know what you mean.

But sadly I think that's just car ownership. Most if not all cars suffer some form of niggles, be it minor rattles you can never tack down or heated rear windows that don't work to more major issues. None are excempt.

A new car would at least mean that any issues would most likely be covered and items that fail due to fatigue, such as rubber hoses, bushes and so are far less likely to occur. But to get this you have to pay more and lose more due to depreciation, so it's a trade off. Also new cars can still have stuff go wrong and need taking back to the dealership.

Simple cars are often built on a budget, so while there may appear less to go wrong thy can still suffer silly issues. But it's the wear and tear that occurs daily that will cause issues, but then that's just a car being used for it's main purpose.

Maybe it's worth trying some differet brands of cars and see if you get on better with them. Running a car into the ground is not really a sound way of hassle free motoring as it'll stnad more chance of things going wrong.

unpc

983 posts

93 months

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Had a Fabia 1.4 Diseasel last week to rent and it was as basic as any I've driven lately. Didn't even have any sound deadening that I could make out. Bloody fast though.

HereBeMonsters

12,225 posts

62 months

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unpc said:
Had a Fabia 1.4 Diseasel last week to rent and it was as basic as any I've driven lately. Didn't even have any sound deadening that I could make out. Bloody fast though.
I really hope you're being ironic.

patmahe

4,228 posts

84 months

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Why not go the bangernomics route with an older car, if it breaks and is uneconomical to fix, then scrap it and pick up another for 500 quid or so, if it doesn't then yipee cheap motoring.

unpc

983 posts

93 months

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HereBeMonsters said:
unpc said:
Had a Fabia 1.4 Diseasel last week to rent and it was as basic as any I've driven lately. Didn't even have any sound deadening that I could make out. Bloody fast though.
I really hope you're being ironic.
I meant for what it was. I've rented tons of dross over the last few months. Seemed quite sprightly at autobahn speeds. I'll STFU now. paperbag

hora

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17,815 posts

91 months

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unpc said:
Had a Fabia 1.4 Diseasel last week to rent and it was as basic as any I've driven lately. Didn't even have any sound deadening that I could make out. Bloody fast though.
ANYTHING rental is amazingly fast- its called to hell with preserving its longevity laugh

uk_vette

2,890 posts

84 months

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Dog Star said:
Merc 190?
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Good choice,

an oldish 1993 190 D

Run on veggie oil

unpc

983 posts

93 months

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hora said:
unpc said:
Had a Fabia 1.4 Diseasel last week to rent and it was as basic as any I've driven lately. Didn't even have any sound deadening that I could make out. Bloody fast though.
ANYTHING rental is amazingly fast- its called to hell with preserving its longevity laugh
nono Usually I'd agree with you, but this weeks rental is the exception that breaks the rule. I seem to have a rubber band powered Corsa. I've seen glaciers move faster.

XitUp

7,690 posts

84 months

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Oh, you can still get Toyota Land Cruiser 70s in Australia and parts of Africa, they're pretty basic and rugged.

The Highway Man

2,251 posts

58 months

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uk_vette said:
thinfourth2 said:
If you are determined to buy a car that will last forever then buy a old 300tdi defender for a few grand

Then get it rebuilt with a brand new galvanised chassis and a rebuilt engine and gearbox and all new fasteners.

All in about £10kish and it is simple and will last for ever
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Are you really serious,,,,,,,,, A Land Rover product,,,,,,,,
Ha, ha, ha, ha

It will be a cold day in hell.
It's got to be better than a 5 year old Toyota Land Cruiser with a quarter of a million miles on the clock. wink

hora

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17,815 posts

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wombat172a said:
According to Warranty Direct, http://www.gizmag.com/go/5657/ these are the most 100 reliable cars from the last decade:
2 Subaru Forester
rofl

crofty1984

10,261 posts

84 months

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JB! said:
Matt_N said:
JB! said:
if i wanted something mind-numbingly reliable, the 8v engine in the MK3 Golf GTI is just that.
Mk3's are prone to terribe rust though, top of the windscreen, sills, arches, tailgate, there's not many rust free cars around.
i thought the later galvanized ones were ok? n-p-r reg?
Not the one I had. Front of the bonet rusted through.
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