Jury duty, reasons to be excused

[Mobile Chicane]

Corsair7 said:

hornetrider said:

Corsair7 said:

hornetrider said:

Corsair7 said:

I cant see a single valid reason for her not doing her jury service in your post.

Well, I can. So there we are.

Care to expand?

Massive loss of pay, inconvenience and cost to hospital for rescheduling whatever she does and getting in a locum/replacement.

Like I said then. Loss of pay isn't nice, but isn't in itself a valid reason. I suspect she'd probably be able to negociate with her employer with this anyway, its not like shes employed by a very small private business. Cost/inconveniance to employer isn't valid (or her problem).


Perhaps you'd prefer only the unemployed/unemployable do jury service? Not 'busy or important' people?

I was in a similar position and asked to be excused on the basis that I was working for a company which had a policy of not paying salary to employees on jury service.

While I'd like to do my civic duty, I can't afford to lose 3/4 of my pay as a result.

[Laurel Green]

My old business partner stated that he fraternised with criminals; he was excused.

If this seems like overkill, one could replace criminals with MP's.

[Corsair7]

Mobile Chicane said:

Corsair7 said:

hornetrider said:

Corsair7 said:

hornetrider said:

Corsair7 said:

I cant see a single valid reason for her not doing her jury service in your post.

Well, I can. So there we are.

Care to expand?

Massive loss of pay, inconvenience and cost to hospital for rescheduling whatever she does and getting in a locum/replacement.

Like I said then. Loss of pay isn't nice, but isn't in itself a valid reason. I suspect she'd probably be able to negociate with her employer with this anyway, its not like shes employed by a very small private business. Cost/inconveniance to employer isn't valid (or her problem).


Perhaps you'd prefer only the unemployed/unemployable do jury service? Not 'busy or important' people?

I was in a similar position and asked to be excused on the basis that I was working for a company which had a policy of not paying salary to employees on jury service.

While I'd like to do my civic duty, I can't afford to lose 3/4 of my pay as a result.

I'm surprised that they accepted this, as loss of earnings can be reclaimed.

http://juror.cjsonline.gov.uk/will-i-be-paid/loss-...

Jury service guidelines said:

You may only claim up to the amount you normally earn, plus childcare and other expenses specifically incurred by your jury service. The total amount payable by the court cannot be more than the maximum allowance for financial loss shown on the allowances sheet. You must supply evidence to prove how much you would have earned and what you spent.

[Mobile Chicane]

Erm, I earn a bit more than £63.12 a day. That's the maximum you can claim.

[Cara van Man]

Mobile Chicane said:

Erm, I earn a bit more than £63.12 a day.

Blimey. Womens rights have come on lately.

[hornetrider]

Mobile Chicane said:

Erm, I earn a bit more than £63.12 a day. That's the maximum you can claim.

Quite. Corsair7 doesn't seem to quite grasp this elementary conundrum. Even 'fag packet' maths would suggest she could be paying 3-500 a day for the priviledge of serving on a jury. And what of the mortgage to be paid, hmmm?

[Cara van Man]

hornetrider said:

Mobile Chicane said:

Erm, I earn a bit more than £63.12 a day. That's the maximum you can claim.

Quite. Corsair7 doesn't seem to quite grasp this elementary conundrum. Even 'fag packet' maths would suggest she could be paying 3-500 a day for the priviledge of serving on a jury. And what of the mortgage to be paid, hmmm?

The money is irrelavent.

It's a duty we all have to do.

just because one person earns more than another, does this excuse them their civic duty?

[TEKNOPUG]

Cara van Man said:

hornetrider said:

Mobile Chicane said:

Erm, I earn a bit more than £63.12 a day. That's the maximum you can claim.

Quite. Corsair7 doesn't seem to quite grasp this elementary conundrum. Even 'fag packet' maths would suggest she could be paying 3-500 a day for the priviledge of serving on a jury. And what of the mortgage to be paid, hmmm?

The money is irrelavent.

It's a duty we all have to do.

just because one person earns more than another, does this excuse them their civic duty?

People also have a duty to care for their families by earning money to put a roof over their heads and food on the table. £63.12 is most certainly relevant.

[Nolar Dog]

Cara van Man said:

The money is irrelavent.

It's a duty we all have to do.

just because one person earns more than another, does this excuse them their civic duty?

No, but if "they" want me to do it "they" need to compensate "me" accordingly so "I" can afford to do it.

[Cara van Man]

Nolar Dog said:

Cara van Man said:

The money is irrelavent.

It's a duty we all have to do.

just because one person earns more than another, does this excuse them their civic duty?

No, but if "they" want me to do it "they" need to compensate "me" accordingly so "I" can afford to do it.

Who says?

It's a law. We have to obide by the law.

If you don't it makes you a criminal.

I doubt you'll ever find yourself in that quandry.

[Mobile Chicane]

If 'compensation for loss of earnings' adequately compensated for loss of earnings, more right-wing fascists like myself would attend for jury service. Ah, wait...

[Nolar Dog]

Cara van Man said:

Nolar Dog said:

No, but if "they" want me to do it "they" need to compensate "me" accordingly so "I" can afford to do it.

Who says?

It's a law. We have to obide by the law.

But because people can't afford to do it threads about "excuses" arise. If the compensation reflected the real cost to those called up it wouldn't be an issue.

I've done Jury Service but that's not what this is about...

[Kit80]

I would love to do it. Can I take her place? Or can I nominate myself somehow to do it seen as no one else wants to?

[4F6]

She should do it.

I did jury service in February, didn't really want to and had already defered it once. There is a lot of sitting around bored but once you get a case its actually quite interesting to someone who doesn't have a regular involvement with the legal profession. I actually found it to be quite a positive experience.

You do lose money, theres no getting away from that but I balanced that out by the fact that I was at home but 1pm most days and a couple of days didn't even have to attend.

I seem to recall that if the trial is expected to go on longer than the two weeks that you can opt out if it is likely to cause you inconvenience.

[Cara van Man]

It's life.

Tough st.

Call it what you will.

We all have to do things we don't want to.

Live with it.

[Nolar Dog]

Cara van Man said:

It's life.

Tough st.

Call it what you will.

We all have to do things we don't want to.

Live with it.

Says the man who is constantly fking moaning about the CSA.

[CaptainSlow]

Cara van Man said:

It's life.

Tough st.

Call it what you will.

We all have to do things we don't want to.

Live with it.

+1

Of course the financial compensation could be raised, but where would the funding for that come from? The money tree?

[Adz The Rat]

So what happens if you are asked to do jury duty and you simply ignore the letter and dont turn up?

[hornetrider]

Cara van Man said:

It's life.

Tough st.

Call it what you will.

We all have to do things we don't want to.

Live with it.

I take the contrary position.

[Marf]

CaptainSlow said:

Cara van Man said:

It's life.

Tough st.

Call it what you will.

We all have to do things we don't want to.

Live with it.

+1

Of course the financial compensation could be raised, but where would the funding for that come from? The money tree?

Isn't that where the QE money came from?