Anyone compared e-gear to R Tronic?

[bradders]

Having previously owned an 08 model G with e-gear, I am considering a look at an R8 Spyder. Does anyone have any comparative experience of the two gear systems that they could share?

Maybe also a comparison of the revised version that I believe hit the 560 against the R Tronic also?

Cheers Bradders

[bertie]

bradders said:

Having previously owned an 08 model G with e-gear, I am considering a look at an R8 Spyder. Does anyone have any comparative experience of the two gear systems that they could share?

Maybe also a comparison of the revised version that I believe hit the 560 against the R Tronic also?

Cheers Bradders

They are the same gearbox I am 99% sure.

[bradders]

Hi Bertie,

Thanks - the same as the 08 model G, or the same as the one in the 560?

Cheers Bradders.

[bertie]

I know the actuation method has changed from a liniear actuator to a rotational helix type on the 560, but they are basicaly the same gearbox.

They are both automated manuals with a single dry clutch, not double clutch gearboxes like DSG / S tronic / PDK / DCT


There really is little differance between 04-08 Gallardo and LP560 apart from software, which one the R8 has I have no idea.

I drove a V8 R8 and it was indistinguishable from my Gallardo e-gear.

Edited by bertie on Friday 16th July 11:48

[bradders]

bertie said:

I know the actuation method has changed from a liniear actuator to a rotational helix type on the 560, but they are basicaly the same gearbox.

They are both automated manuals with a single dry clutch, not double clutch gearboxes like DSG / S tronic / PDK / DCT


There really is little differance between 04-08 Gallardo and LP560 apart from software, which one the R8 has I have no idea.

I drove a V8 R8 and it was indistinguishable from my Gallardo e-gear.

Edited by bertie on Friday 16th July 11:48

Bertie,

Thanks again for your help. Was not sure what the differences were between the 560 and the 08 e-gear I had - just going from memory at the time of launch of the 560 that some on here said is was a much smoother change.

Cheers, Bradders.

[bertie]

bradders said:

Bertie,

Thanks again for your help. Was not sure what the differences were between the 560 and the 08 e-gear I had - just going from memory at the time of launch of the 560 that some on here said is was a much smoother change.

Cheers, Bradders.

The 560 change is better, faster actuators and more refinement in the software, but the same gearbox.

Edited by bertie on Friday 16th July 14:15

[bradders]

Thanks for the help and correcting my misunderstanding.

Cheers, Bradders.

[propaganda]

bradders said:

Having previously owned an 08 model G with e-gear, I am considering a look at an R8 Spyder. Does anyone have any comparative experience of the two gear systems that they could share?

Maybe also a comparison of the revised version that I believe hit the 560 against the R Tronic also?

Cheers Bradders

Would be interested to know why you are looking at the R8 spyder over say a Gallardo spyder ? Considering one myself but unsure at the moment.

[lambo_xx]

As far as I know they are fundamentally the same gearbox although they probably have different software. For example a 360 had exactly the same gearbox throughout its production, however the software was just updated on later models.

I've never driven e-gear but I have driven R-Tronic and I have to say I really didn't like it! I'm not sure if it was just the fact that the paddles on the steering wheel are about 2 millimetres big, but It just felt a bit slow and jerky at slow speeds.

[markcoznottz]

Bizarre how VWs hasnt put a DSG gearbox in the gallardo/R8, especialy considering it knows as much as anyone about them.

[bertie]

markcoznottz said:

Bizarre how VWs hasnt put a DSG gearbox in the gallardo/R8, especialy considering it knows as much as anyone about them.

Most DSG installations are transverse engines, Lambo is longitudinal, plus rather more grunt than the other DSGs take!

[bradders]

propaganda said:

bradders said:

Having previously owned an 08 model G with e-gear, I am considering a look at an R8 Spyder. Does anyone have any comparative experience of the two gear systems that they could share?

Maybe also a comparison of the revised version that I believe hit the 560 against the R Tronic also?

Cheers Bradders

Would be interested to know why you are looking at the R8 spyder over say a Gallardo spyder ? Considering one myself but unsure at the moment.

Indeed an interesting question. Have owned a Gallardo (2008 coupe), and loved it, but have kind of ticked that box, if you see what I mean. When I had the G, it was the only car I was running at the time. Now, I am intending on keeping the Supercharged RRSport for the more frequent bad weather periods we have, and also for it's versatility (took 4 people to the Alps boarding in January, and it was a pleasure).

The itch to get a car without a roof has come from buying an R400 Caterham with a mate, and driving it from home to work one morning after blatting around in it over the weekend - was a very refreshing experience. Not refreshing enough to run it all the time, mind you.

So, I started to have a look around, to see what may appeal, and compliment the other cars I have available to drive. Not looking for balls out performance (sub 4 seconds), but something around the 4 to 5 second mark appeals. Never been a fan of Porsche (they still carry a stigma from the '80s to me, whether fair or not), nor Mercs. The other options seem to be 430 or Cally, DB9 (or S), or maybe a Maser. The G Spyder would come after all the others are ruled out, only because I've already kinda ticked that box.

I had actually viewed the R8 as a "more everyday" solution - so this is where I began my search. It was intersting to see both the R8 Spyder and 911 T Cab get a rather hands off review on the TV last night also.

Cheers Bradders.

[bertie]

The Gallardo and R8 are essentialy the same car, if it's a change you're after, which I can perfectly understand, I'd say F430.

However, nothing will feel like proper driving compared to the R400

[bradders]

bertie said:

The Gallardo and R8 are essentialy the same car, if it's a change you're after, which I can perfectly understand, I'd say F430.

However, nothing will feel like proper driving compared to the R400

Haha - know what you mean. Only had a few runs in the R400, before we had to send the engine to Raceline to fix a problem, so it's rapidly becomming a distant memory! Hopefully when I get it put back in, it will be even more special! That's the reason I'm not looking for total balls out acceleration from any new purchase.

Noted on the recommendation of a 430 - think it's about time to try a few out, and see what I like.

[lambo_xx]

bradders said:

propaganda said:

bradders said:

Having previously owned an 08 model G with e-gear, I am considering a look at an R8 Spyder. Does anyone have any comparative experience of the two gear systems that they could share?

Maybe also a comparison of the revised version that I believe hit the 560 against the R Tronic also?

Cheers Bradders

Would be interested to know why you are looking at the R8 spyder over say a Gallardo spyder ? Considering one myself but unsure at the moment.

Indeed an interesting question. Have owned a Gallardo (2008 coupe), and loved it, but have kind of ticked that box, if you see what I mean. When I had the G, it was the only car I was running at the time. Now, I am intending on keeping the Supercharged RRSport for the more frequent bad weather periods we have, and also for it's versatility (took 4 people to the Alps boarding in January, and it was a pleasure).

The itch to get a car without a roof has come from buying an R400 Caterham with a mate, and driving it from home to work one morning after blatting around in it over the weekend - was a very refreshing experience. Not refreshing enough to run it all the time, mind you.

So, I started to have a look around, to see what may appeal, and compliment the other cars I have available to drive. Not looking for balls out performance (sub 4 seconds), but something around the 4 to 5 second mark appeals. Never been a fan of Porsche (they still carry a stigma from the '80s to me, whether fair or not), nor Mercs. The other options seem to be 430 or Cally, DB9 (or S), or maybe a Maser. The G Spyder would come after all the others are ruled out, only because I've already kinda ticked that box.

I had actually viewed the R8 as a "more everyday" solution - so this is where I began my search. It was intersting to see both the R8 Spyder and 911 T Cab get a rather hands off review on the TV last night also.

Cheers Bradders.

I used to have a 911 before I bought my F430 spider and when deciding what to buy I test drove an R8. It was a really good car, more comfortable than the Gallardo, but here is the problem I have with it as an everyday car. It's actually a little bit wider than a Gallardo so, driving it on country roads or parking it in tight spaces takes a bit of getting used to. It's still pretty low to the ground so you have to approach speed bumps in the same way as you did in the Gallardo i.e stop and roll over them. The next problem with it was, a Porsche 911 is a subtle car that tends to go unnoticed when parked on the street, whereas a R8 gets a lot more attention. So therefore you have to think a lot more carefully about where to park it. So for me personally I would rather buy a used Gallardo than a R8 because it’s just as impractical, but in my eyes anyway, is a far more special car. All just my opinion of course

As for the other cars you suggested, I’ve never driven a DB9 Volante, but use a DB9 coupe several times a week and it’s an awesome car. It’s quite a strange car to drive because when you get in a Ferrari or a Lamborghini you feel like you want to just hammer it all the way home. Whereas in the Aston, you don’t mind just cruising along comfortably at 20mph. Anytime I have to make a motorway journey I like to use the Aston because it’s just so relaxing. Bad points are, the rear seats are basically useless, I have had an adult in the back but she’s about 5ft 1 and now has a broken spine!
Haven’t ever driven a California, although I’m sure it’ll be great. I reckon it’s more of a GT car than a out and out supercar like the 430.
I use my F430 spider everyday and it’s fantastic. It’s easier to drive than the Gallardo and has much better visibility. Oh and the boot is pretty big for that type of car. It’s definitely more of a driver’s car than the Gallardo but because it doesn’t have 4 wheel drive, it can be a bit frisky in the wet if you’re not careful. I’m actually selling my F430 spider so if you’re interested just drop me a email.

Hope that helps