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Zuhayb

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122 posts

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Saturday 24th July 2010 quote quote all
Hi all,

As above, have you guys ever heard of this kit? I recently bought one from them (Innotec), its mainly for cars that go on limp mode, and/or sticking turbo vanes. My car is a Passat 2.0 TDI, cannot go above 80mph, so bought this stuff but I do not have any access to get to the bottom of the turbo.
German engineering!

Does anyone know a garage that have done this kind of job before? I live in Brisol, and so far none of the garages that I know of have heard about Innotec.

Tame Technician

2,299 posts

88 months

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Saturday 24th July 2010 quote quote all
What does it do, how is it supposed to work.?

Why do you need to get to the bottom of the turbo?

Zuhayb

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122 posts

49 months

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Monday 26th July 2010 quote quote all
Clears the carbon and all the soot that is in the turbo, mainly for german diesels that go into limp mode. Turbo is located somewhere underneath the toothed belt. Drive shaft comes in the way of the turbo, therefore cannot have access!


Slyjoe

1,094 posts

95 months

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Monday 26th July 2010 quote quote all
Shouldnt you just drip feed very fine sand through the air intake? It will probably clean out all of the gunk throughout your whole engine, not just the turbo.
I read about it once on the internets. I think it worked.

Tame Technician

2,299 posts

88 months

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Monday 26th July 2010 quote quote all
Turbo is definatly not behind the cam belt.

Only thing on the bottom of the turbo is the oil return line.

The bit that cokes up is inside the turbos exhaust housing, so all you need to do is remover the cat and spray the stuff inside the exhaust turbo. You could try spraying it in the inlet, but I would advise against incase the engine runs away on the cleaner or the cleaning effect is lost by burning the it in the engine.

Is your passate transvers or longi mounted (i dont see VW only audi) if its longi just take the air box out, then three 12mm nuts and you can get in there. Hour tops. If its tranvers, then the drive shaft is in the way a bit, if you end up paying a garage to do it, you might as well have them completely remove the turbo so it can be up ended and the exhaust housing filled with the cleaner and left for a bit to fizz, as the manufacturer suggests. Expect to pay 3.5 hours labour to remove and refit a turbo.


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Zuhayb

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122 posts

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Monday 26th July 2010 quote quote all
I heard someone did the sand blast on a Audi TT, and it destroyed the engine. It went from bad to worse, so I aint doing that!

Theres even an advert going on PH about the Innotec Turbo Cleaner!

Dr G

11,060 posts

126 months

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Monday 26th July 2010 quote quote all
Before wasting money pouring what is probably just a bottle of carb cleaner into your engine why not have someone investigate what's causing the lack of power?

Zuhayb

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122 posts

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Tuesday 27th July 2010 quote quote all
Tame Technician said:
Turbo is definatly not behind the cam belt.

Only thing on the bottom of the turbo is the oil return line.

The bit that cokes up is inside the turbos exhaust housing, so all you need to do is remover the cat and spray the stuff inside the exhaust turbo. You could try spraying it in the inlet, but I would advise against incase the engine runs away on the cleaner or the cleaning effect is lost by burning the it in the engine.

Is your passate transvers or longi mounted (i dont see VW only audi) if its longi just take the air box out, then three 12mm nuts and you can get in there. Hour tops. If its tranvers, then the drive shaft is in the way a bit, if you end up paying a garage to do it, you might as well have them completely remove the turbo so it can be up ended and the exhaust housing filled with the cleaner and left for a bit to fizz, as the manufacturer suggests. Expect to pay 3.5 hours labour to remove and refit a turbo.
The Passat is a transvers, which will be a pain for me if I do it. I am going to take this to my local garage and ask him to spray the stuff!

Thanks for the info smile


Zuhayb

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122 posts

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Tuesday 27th July 2010 quote quote all
Dr G said:
Before wasting money pouring what is probably just a bottle of carb cleaner into your engine why not have someone investigate what's causing the lack of power?
I've tried that, but no luck! I went to various garages and they all came up with, it needs a new turbo! Which I think it's a complete nonsense, I am sure the turbo has been built up with carbon, causing the car to go on limp mode. The Passat, has not been on the motorway previous owners drove the car in the city!

I've heard some good reviews about this (Innotec).

Edited by Zuhayb on Tuesday 27th July 14:30

Kindersley

329 posts

49 months

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Wednesday 4th August 2010 quote quote all
Ok... after letting the typical PH planks make the "its not going to work" comments

lets sit down and find out the issue and why INNOTEC does work . If your VW turbo is the variable vanes type ? then they get clogged up and stick. This causes issues like "limp mode" etc .

Using innotec CORRECTLY works amazing. I had "R-Tech" (Hinckley) do mine in April and the difference was Instant. Even they admit you could even use a oven cleaning spray as long as you do it right. You must spray it only one way and rinse it all out etc

Nip over to the Uk MK1v forum for a much better selection of answers than it seems you will get here !

Kindersley

329 posts

49 months

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Wednesday 4th August 2010 quote quote all
Zuhayb said:
Dr G said:
Before wasting money pouring what is probably just a bottle of carb cleaner into your engine why not have someone investigate what's causing the lack of power?
I've tried that, but no luck! I went to various garages and they all came up with, it needs a new turbo! Which I think it's a complete nonsense, I am sure the turbo has been built up with carbon, causing the car to go on limp mode. The Passat, has not been on the motorway previous owners drove the car in the city!

I've heard some good reviews about this (Innotec).

Edited by Zuhayb on Tuesday 27th July 14:30
these type of turbos hate traffic ! You have to change gear a lot higher revs than normal and give the turbo a good "work out" from time to time

R-tech took 0ne hour and charge £90 inclusive of Innotec. They do not think it needs to take longer .He had it sprayed in within 15 mins of been under the car

Kindersley

329 posts

49 months

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Wednesday 4th August 2010 quote quote all
Ok... after letting the typical PH planks make the "its not going to work" comments

lets sit down and find out the issue and why INNOTEC does work . If your VW turbo is the variable vanes type ? then they get clogged up and stick. This causes issues like "limp mode" etc .

Using innotec CORRECTLY works amazing. I had "R-Tech" (Hinckley) do mine in April and the difference was Instant. Even they admit you could even use a oven cleaning spray as long as you do it right. You must spray it only one way and rinse it all out etc

Nip over to the Uk MK1v forum for a much better selection of answers than it seems you will get here !

Silverbullet767

8,443 posts

90 months

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Thursday 5th August 2010 quote quote all
Have you ruled out the MAF meter??

When I changed mine on my old A4 it went from struggling to climb hills to a brand new car.

You could even take it out and carefully clean it for little to no outlay.

It should be located just behind your airbox (just after the filter) if it's the same as my old one.

Dr G

11,060 posts

126 months

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Thursday 5th August 2010 quote quote all
Kindersley said:
Ok... after letting the typical PH planks make the "its not going to work" comments
Thanks Kindersley, it's nice to meet you too.

Given that the OP did not mention he had already asked a garage to diagnose the fault is it unreasonable to suggest that he has the fault diagnosed before looking at this solution? If the original comment had been 'My garage have investigated a running fault and there is excessive carbon build up in the turbo on my car, does anyone have experience with x product?' then I wouldn't even have replied.

L2VXR

674 posts

97 months

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Thursday 5th August 2010 quote quote all
Silverbullet767 said:
Have you ruled out the MAF meter??

When I changed mine on my old A4 it went from struggling to climb hills to a brand new car.
I found this on a mates tdi golf as a temp fix i just unpluged the maf electical connector and the car was an instant rocket ship compared to before
new maf was about £80 from vw with a 2 year warrenty

BoraBora

143 posts

54 months

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Friday 6th August 2010 quote quote all
Can you not spray it down the EGR outlet if its anything like my bora its just 2 1/2" nuts and 2 8mm allan bolts, or can you take the turbo off and clean the exhaust housing ?

Kindersley

329 posts

49 months

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Friday 6th August 2010 quote quote all
You SHOULD only spray it in one way, something to do with "eating seals" ??? Once on a ramp the guy at "R-TECH" was spraying it in very quickly, so it must be a simple 2 nuts type job.

BoraBora

143 posts

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Monday 9th August 2010 quote quote all
Can someone tell me how this works? I cant imagine a spray in cleaner freeing coked up vanes, could spray it down the EGR but that would only sit at the bottom of the turbo wouldn't it ?

Kindersley

329 posts

49 months

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Tuesday 10th August 2010 quote quote all
You need to use a "minivac" to move the vaines. This with the solution will free it up.

There is a a GOOD reason why many garages will not use it...It works and saves you money. Thats not good for them !! They want you to start spending turbo money.

so if you see a garage like "r-tech " in Hinckley etc that use it . you can see they are more honest towards their customers

Zuhayb

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122 posts

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Tuesday 10th August 2010 quote quote all
I went to Challenge Motor Co based in Cheltenham, and got it done from them. They even keep a stock of the Innotec Turbo Cleaner!

The made no difference what so ever, they have told me that the vanes has been completely clogged up, and will need to fit a new turbo. Tbh I am very gutted, and cannot afford to replace a new turbo.


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