Australian Speeding Tickets...

Australian Speeding Tickets...

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carlosanna

Original Poster:

47 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Hi to everybody.

I need a bit of advice.... whilst cruising around New South Wales, Australia, I have managed to pick up three minor speeding tickets which I refuse to pay. I return to England on 4th October 2010 and will be coming back to Australia sometime later that month for a further five weeks. My question is; will my unpaid speeding tickets hamper my return to or exit from Australia? Does anybody know how long it takes before such traffic offences are logged with immigration, if at all? If this was to be logged, would this apply in every state or would I just be blacklisted in New South Wales?

I would appreciate any advice and would like to hear from people with a similar experience. Thanks for your help!

Carlos

ylee coyote

420 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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I am pretty sure they are logged as a "debt to the state" and you may not get back in ,even if you offer to pay it

iirc they catch you on the way out and dont let you leave until you pay up ....

pay up is what I would do ....

not worth the hassle if you are coming back imho

Ej74

1,038 posts

185 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Same thing happended to me visited Australia in 2008, parking ticket and fine - forgot to pay/ lost ticket

Returned in 2010 - no claim against my during the period of 2008 until 2010.

100% no issues on my part entering or leaving Australia

Flintstone

8,644 posts

247 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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carlosanna said:
New South Wales, Australia
As opposed the other New South Wales?


rolleyes

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

177 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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carlosanna said:
I have managed to pick up three minor speeding tickets which I refuse to pay.
Why?

14-7

6,233 posts

191 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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JumboBeef said:
carlosanna said:
I have managed to pick up three minor speeding tickets which I refuse to pay.
Why?
Did you not know that laws don't apply if you are a foreigner?

smile

pikey

7,699 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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I had one of these a few years ago. I paid up as a) the Aussie government are anal and quite hot on stuff like that, and b) I want to go back without being pulled to one side and told I owe them the fine plus interest, compounded.

In France they add 10% to an outstanding debt per month (compounded).. but they're too much of a bunch of disorganised fkwits ever to do anything about it!

If you're never intending to go back, ignore it.

archangeldk

258 posts

172 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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14-7 said:
Did you not know that laws don't apply if you are a foreigner?

smile
haha +1

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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carlosanna said:
Hi to everybody.

I need a bit of advice.... whilst cruising around New South Wales, Australia, I have managed to pick up three minor speeding tickets which I refuse to pay. I return to England on 4th October 2010 and will be coming back to Australia sometime later that month for a further five weeks. My question is; will my unpaid speeding tickets hamper my return to or exit from Australia? Does anybody know how long it takes before such traffic offences are logged with immigration, if at all? If this was to be logged, would this apply in every state or would I just be blacklisted in New South Wales?

I would appreciate any advice and would like to hear from people with a similar experience. Thanks for your help!

Carlos
A very good friend of mine racked up 5 tickets for speeding in Australia while he was there for 3 weeks holiday hehe (~thought you might have been him actually lol~) he never paid them

this was about 4 years ago. he has heard nothing since

if you want/need further details I'll give him a ring for you

caziques

2,573 posts

168 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Don't pay. No need to and can't be enforced.

Before anything is lodged in "the system" there is a process the police have to follow. Eventually it ends up with the courts who then try and enforce it..........by sending invoices to your home address.

Possibly, in theory, immigration could be told, but that process would take some months at the very least, by which time I assume you would be long gone from Oz.

Some sort of ticket from Australia found its wy to me here in New Zealand. Police did well as I used my UK driving licence to hire a car, and I had emigrated eight years before.

The begging letters said something about they MUST be returned if undelivered within a certain time. All of them were ignored, nothing happened.


Shamu

147 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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If your going back to OZ i would definetly pay up, for the sake of what $200?

It could potentially save you alot of further time, money and hassle when you try to get back in.


randomwalk

534 posts

164 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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its VERY easy to get booked for speeding in OZ, the cops are always hiding somewhere, if you are doing more than 40KPH over the speed limit its instant loss of licence (thats if you are an Ozzie), for overseas visitors it would be a big fine and maybe a court appearance. I dont think they enforce overdue fines through immigration, of course if you had a hire car it will go back to the hire car company and they will charge your credit card.

krallicious

4,312 posts

205 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Do they still have the billboards in Oz with "1k over, 6ft under" written on them? Made me laugh when I was there.

I drove from Cairns to Sydney with some friends and one saw one police car on the road through the whole of Queensland. As soon as we crossed the NSW boarder, there was a police speed check!

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Few questions.

Hire car or own car?

Where they mobile speed camera tickets, or were you pulled over by the Highway patrol?

What sort of speed are we talking about?

Do they have your contact details?

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

181 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Pay them if you've the slightest glimmer of ever wanting to come back. Those that say they have not had a problem on return, fair enough, but I'd want more than a single example of it not being a problem. They are very anal about this stuff and I wouldn't chance it.

caziques

2,573 posts

168 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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randomwalk said:
its VERY easy to get booked for speeding in OZ, the cops are always hiding somewhere, if you are doing more than 40KPH over the speed limit its instant loss of licence (thats if you are an Ozzie), for overseas visitors it would be a big fine and maybe a court appearance. I dont think they enforce overdue fines through immigration, of course if you had a hire car it will go back to the hire car company and they will charge your credit card.
No, the credit card company can't charge your card. Even if they try and put administration charges on, have them reversed as an unauthorized transaction.

In the extremely unlikely event the OP goes back into OZ and has any sort of problem - fill in forms to say you were never sent any paperwork. Australia an New Zealand work on Reminders. No, Reminder received, no liability. If you are really lucky you may get another Reminder - file it in the bin.

New Zealand is running over a year behind in even attempting to collect speeding fines from residents - do you really think they are going to bother about visitors? I would suspect they are amazed when somebody sends money from abroad.


thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

224 months

Friday 17th September 2010
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To utilise their own terms.

Chuck 'em a brown eye, and tell 'em you don't give a rat's ass.

Why would you want to go back to Australia, unless you left something over there by accident?

A inhospitable baron land with nasty poisonous critters, and that's just the politicians, that's only claims to world admiration are Holden Commodores (and their variants), Marcos Ambrose, Mick Doohan, Rolf Harris, and Paul Hogan. The rest of it is crap. Perhaps with the exception of the Wilson family of Cargoolie, and Nigel.

Can you see what it is yet?

Don't pay, then they won't be able to give your money to some aborigine so he can by more woobla, and another FJ.


carlosanna

Original Poster:

47 posts

207 months

Friday 17th September 2010
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Colonial said:
Few questions.

Hire car or own car?

Where they mobile speed camera tickets, or were you pulled over by the Highway patrol?

What sort of speed are we talking about?

Do they have your contact details?
It was a hire car. I have one mobile speed camera ticket (letter sent to English address) and two instances where I was pulled over by the cops. I was doing less than 20km/hr over on all three instances. And yes, they do have my name and address, as taken from my driving licence. Would appreciate your thoughts redface)

carlosanna

Original Poster:

47 posts

207 months

Friday 17th September 2010
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y2blade said:
carlosanna said:
Hi to everybody.

I need a bit of advice.... whilst cruising around New South Wales, Australia, I have managed to pick up three minor speeding tickets which I refuse to pay. I return to England on 4th October 2010 and will be coming back to Australia sometime later that month for a further five weeks. My question is; will my unpaid speeding tickets hamper my return to or exit from Australia? Does anybody know how long it takes before such traffic offences are logged with immigration, if at all? If this was to be logged, would this apply in every state or would I just be blacklisted in New South Wales?

I would appreciate any advice and would like to hear from people with a similar experience. Thanks for your help!

Carlos
A very good friend of mine racked up 5 tickets for speeding in Australia while he was there for 3 weeks holiday hehe (~thought you might have been him actually lol~) he never paid them

this was about 4 years ago. he has heard nothing since

if you want/need further details I'll give him a ring for you
Your friend sounds a lot like me! Has he ever been back to Oz since?

Derek Smith

45,664 posts

248 months

Friday 17th September 2010
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thunderbelmont said:
only claims to world admiration are . . . Rolf Harris . . .

That was very wicked and I'm tempted to call in the forum administrators.