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arundgati

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Benjc

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Are you sure you aren't turning it off?

The triangle is illuminated when it is switched off or it is actively working to correct something...

Hence why it is called the "you are having fun light".

john_p

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arundgati said:
When I turn on the traction control, I get a big "DTS" message on the dashboard for a few seconds.
After a few seconds a smaller "DTS" light is lit, and ofcourse the warning triangle as well.

When I turn it off both the DTS and the warning triangle disappears.

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rofl

It is ON when you start the car

You turn it OFF by pressing the button, hence the warning lights wink

john_p

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Right, but there is no problem:

- "DTC" light tells you that DTC is switched on - to warn you that you are not protected by the full range of DSC functions
- When you hold the button down >3s DTC and DSC are both switched off so you get the "DTC" light + the "DSC" light on, to warn you that EVERYTHING is off

They are yellow, but they are not telling you there is a problem.


Edited by john_p on Monday 27th September 18:14

arfur daley

785 posts

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I think its a light to tell you to buy another car.
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Herbs

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arundgati said:
Hi John


If you were not aware, Its not turned on by default.
DTC "Dynamic Traction Control", I'm not talking about the ABS.
DTC has to be switched on by pressing the DTC button.
Never mind I did not start this thread to waste my time arguing about useless comments.

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Not sure why you haven't had the light before but it is the complete opposite of what you think.

There is DTC and DSC - both of these are on as standard.

If you press the tv button then DTC is displayed meaning that the TC is switched off but the DSC is still switched on

If you hold the button down for 3+ seconds then you turn off both and will get the DTC and TC light on.

Have you taken to pressing the button for longer than usual?

It's not surprising that it throws a fault code if you have it switched off.

If you still disbelieve the advice you are getting on here then bite the bullet and get the car booked in at the stealers.



Edited by Herbs on Monday 27th September 18:55

Funk

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arundgati said:
John

Thanks for your reply.
I understand what you are saying.
Its only from the last couple of days I'm getting this warning triangle when I turn on DTC.
I have not seen this warning in the past.
That was the reason for my concern. I can think what you will say next smile, but this new message on my dashboard did not make any sense to me.
I tried a bit of BC switch flicking etc I noticed "CC-ID 184" don't know what that means and the owners manual is useless.

I tried looking up for this on the web, found a list of CC-IDs on bimmer forums.
Apparently it means "DSC 184 Dynamic Traction Control Active".

I'm even more confused now.

Cheerio
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If you want the safety systems active, just start the car. Don't press anything else. If you want the systems OFF, then the BMW has two stages. A short press on the DTC button loosens the traction control, allowing for a degree of slip. Useful on surfaces where you're struggling to get moving such as snow. You will have the letters 'DTC' lit up on the dash, like this:




You will still have the safety net of DSC in place and it will catch anything too 'wild'.

Pressing and holding it will turn all the systems off completely. You will have the orange triangle with the arrow around it like this:



Basically, if you don't understand the above, you shouldn't be playing with it.

Edited by Funk on Monday 27th September 18:54

Fox-

11,092 posts

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arundgati said:
If you were not aware, Its not turned on by default.
DTC "Dynamic Traction Control", I'm not talking about the ABS.
DTC has to be switched on by pressing the DTC button.
Never mind I did not start this thread to waste my time arguing about useless comments.
I dont know why I am helping you when you are being rude to people, but here we go.

You do not understand how your cars traction control works. Let me explain it to you.

When you start the engine, traction control is switched ON. There are no NO lights on the dash.

When you press the DTC button, it changes the traction control into Dynamic Traction Control mode. This is not turning your traction control on. It is infact REDUCING your traction control, DTC is a mode whereby it will allow more slip than usual.

If you wish to drive with your traction control on, simply drive the car as normal. It is turned on by default.

No lights on the dash = full traction control active.

Phunk

655 posts

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Lets start again, when you get in the car, you press the start button and then drive?

Or do you press the start button and then the traction control button?

Funk

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Phunk said:
Lets start again, when you get in the car, you press the start button and then drive?

Or do you press the start button and then the traction control button?
Seriously, I wouldn't bother. Trying to explain this to him is like trying to herd cats. He appears to be too stupid to grasp a fairly simple concept which has been politely and comprehensively laid out for him.

john_p

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I'll spell this out

1. Start car: DSC is on. As this is normal for the car, no lights come on to tell you.

2. Press DTC button once: DSC goes into "DTC" mode. DTC message flashes once on big display, to inform you, then DTC indicator stays on, to remind you the car is in "DTC" mode.

3. Hold down DTC button >3s: DSC goes into a basic mode where it is essentially deactivated. DSC message flashes on big display, then DSC indicator comes on as well as the DTC indicator.


You can go and test this now - start the car, then go and try and spin the wheels from a standstill and watch the DSC light flashes as it stops the wheelspin!

Herbs

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Funk

15,102 posts

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arundgati said:
And Funk, stupidity because of my in experience and trying to fully understand with only what I read on the net.
It was clearly explained several times over by many different people.

Hope you've understood what we were all trying to explain.

Fox-

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To summarise, never press the DTC button. Full traction control is ON for you automatically the second you push the starter. There is no need for you to intervene.

WhiteBaron

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just made my day thumbup

Fats25

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Made my day as well. I love finding a little gem like this is a sub forum!

thinfourth2

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arundgati said:
Hi John


If you were not aware, Its not turned on by default.
DTC "Dynamic Traction Control", I'm not talking about the ABS.
DTC has to be switched on by pressing the DTC button.
Never mind I did not start this thread to waste my time arguing about useless comments.

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yeah right
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