Help - Clutch slipping on Fazer 600 1998

[Cartwheel]

Hi all,

little help needed or some opinons on this: from cold at 30mph the clutch slips at about 5000 rpm in 3rd.

Is it possible that this is just the clutch springs gone soft or the cable needing some adjustment? Or is the clutch dead already? If it's just the springs is that DIY'able for a relatively inept rider (changed the Final Stage Resistor in my e46 but that's probably the most techinical thing I've done for a while!)?

For reference the bike is a well maintained '98 Fazer FZS 600 with 21k miles on the clock.

Thanks in advance

[R1 Loon]

Cartwheel said:

Hi all,

little help needed or some opinons on this: from cold at 30mph the clutch slips at about 5000 rpm in 3rd.

Is it possible that this is just the clutch springs gone soft or the cable needing some adjustment? Or is the clutch dead already? If it's just the springs is that DIY'able for a relatively inept rider (changed the Final Stage Resistor in my e46 but that's probably the most techinical thing I've done for a while!)?

For reference the bike is a well maintained '98 Fazer FZS 600 with 21k miles on the clock.

Thanks in advance

I changed a clutch on the bike earlier this year.

You sound a hell of a lot more mechanically minded than me, as I didn't have a clue why it had springs (to be honest I still don't)

[Biker's Nemesis]

Turn the adjuster inwards at the clutch lever, if that doesn't work you'll need a new clutch.

[R1 Loon]

Biker's Nemesis said:

Turn the adjuster inwards at the clutch lever, if that doesn't work you'll need a new clutch.

That's another thing I learned this year

[Cunny DK]

I watched loon change his clutch and have to admit it looks dead easy.

[Fleegle]

Biker's Nemesis said:

Turn the adjuster inwards at the clutch lever, if that doesn't work you'll need a new clutch.

Failing that, lay the bike on its side and rip its heart out

[Cartwheel]

Biker's Nemesis said:

Turn the adjuster inwards at the clutch lever, if that doesn't work you'll need a new clutch.

Will try this, prior to Fleegle's suggestion

So no-one thinks it's the springs then? 21k miles is a bit low to have the clutch go, Shirley?

[twizellb]

If you can find out how long your springs should be, you will be able to tell if they are shot, as there will be a minimum serviceable length.
If your springs measure less then they are shagged.
Having the same problem with my Mille at the moment but it has the added complication of a hydrualic clutch.

[davethebunny]

clutch change is an easy job on a bike.

Lay it over on it's side, undo the clutch cover, undo the bolts, take out the springs, pull out the metal and cork plates, and put the new ones in, and reassemble.

Soak the corks in oil overnight beforehand.

If it's a cable clutch, you'll need to adjust it after installing the new plates.

If you've been slipping it a lot, you'll probably need the steel plates as well. Price up a clutch kit, they're not expensive and come with replacement springs. FWIW i would not go to the trouble of taking it all apart just to measure the springs, and then having to reassemble it whilst you wait for new ones, and then have to repeat the procedure to change them.

[Fleegle]

davethebunny said:

clutch change is an easy job on a bike.

Lay it over on it's side,

like so...

[C8PPO]

twizellb said:

If you can find out how long your springs should be, you will be able to tell if they are shot, as there will be a minimum serviceable length.
If your springs measure less then they are shagged.
Having the same problem with my Mille at the moment but it has the added complication of a hydrualic clutch.

Why would changing the springs (or indeed the whole clutch) be any more difficult with a hydraulic clutch? Easier, in fact - no adjustments to make afterwards?

[Toyless]

Don't forget to order a new clutcj cover gasket too.

[twizellb]

C8PPO said:

twizellb said:

If you can find out how long your springs should be, you will be able to tell if they are shot, as there will be a minimum serviceable length.
If your springs measure less then they are shagged.
Having the same problem with my Mille at the moment but it has the added complication of a hydrualic clutch.

Why would changing the springs (or indeed the whole clutch) be any more difficult with a hydraulic clutch? Easier, in fact - no adjustments to make afterwards?

Really!
Have just fitted a 'Barnett' clutch to mine after having it slip above 8.5k, only to find it's slipping worse
Never mentioned it being more difficult to change the springs.
The 'added complication' is the slave cylinder and the master cylinder;)

Edited by twizellb on Tuesday 28th September 17:36

[Cartwheel]

Thanks all, perhaps I'll have a pop at changing the clutch myself and will report back accordingly...








Edited for lame euro english got to pop back for a visit and relearn how to spik propa likes innit...

Edited by Cartwheel on Tuesday 28th September 21:22

[R1 Loon]

Cunny DK said:

I watched loon change his clutch and have to admit it looks dead easy.

Shhhhh, I was trying to impress people with my mechanical prowess.

[Cunny DK]

R1 Loon said:

Cunny DK said:

I watched loon change his clutch and have to admit it looks dead easy.

Shhhhh, I was trying to impress people with my mechanical prowess.

I know, that's why I played along. Now you've let the cat out of the bag

[R1 Loon]

Cunny DK said:

R1 Loon said:

Cunny DK said:

I watched loon change his clutch and have to admit it looks dead easy.

Shhhhh, I was trying to impress people with my mechanical prowess.

I know, that's why I played along. Now you've let the cat out of the bag

Double bluff, double bluff. I'm awesome with mechanical things n stuff.

[Hooli]

What oil is in the bike?
Fully synth or car oil can occasionally cause clutch slip. Car oil is a more common cause, synth oil will only cause it if the clutch is worn.

I'd be tempted to try fresh bike oil before swopping out a clutch.

[Fleegle]

You might want to try 5% LESS THAN THE MANUFACTURER RECOMMENDS AS WELL IF YOU ARE A BIT HEAVY

dONT' you just hate caps lock when you have sossige fingers

[smack]

Fleegle said:

davethebunny said:

clutch change is an easy job on a bike.

Lay it over on it's side,

like so...

I used that trick when I had to fix the engine cover on Tori's bike. She freaked when I sent her the photo of it!