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dylan0451

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so, i've finally decided, i think, on a car. thought i'd be a bit pikey and do one of these cheapo text checks to see if it's been stolen, pranged etc.

the first text came back looking good:

Bmw 328i 2.8
VIN***6707 Sep 99
2 owners
No colour changes
No stolen record
Not scrapped
Help 08444821954

so i thought, that's good, then a second one came through reading:

  • * is a recovered vehicle.
Loss date 04-11-2006.
Help 08444821954

hm. the fact it's been mot'd I assume it can't have been a total write off, but would this mean that this car is a cat C/D? and would i find this out of i did a proper £15-20 check?

Mroad

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You've found it out it's a total loss with that text check. It says it's recovered, as in stolen/recovered which is usually lumped in with Cat D.

Nothing wrong with text checks but obviously it's just a text so it's not going to provide pages and pages of info. I usually use them to save on a journey to actually look at a car which it has done in the past (a car written off 3 times previously!).
If the cars decent and I want to buy then I do a full HPI with the guarantee.

Risotto

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Another point to note is that the cheap text services don't often include information on outstanding finance.

In this particular case I'd guess it was stolen, declared a total loss then recovered.

dylan0451

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hadn't thought of that, so if a car is stolen, and not even scratched it still goes down as a cat D?

Risotto

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dylan0451 said:
hadn't thought of that, so if a car is stolen, and not even scratched it still goes down as a cat D?
If they can't find it, they have to pay out. At that point the insurance company write the car off. If it's subsequently found, it is the property of the insurance company. They will dispose of it through salvage auction or similar.

Doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad buy but the price needs to reflect the fact it's a write off. The other downside is there may be little history with the car and, of course, you've no idea what damage may have been done in order to effect the theft or how it was driven by the thieves. Best case - keys stolen, car quietly driven off and stashed away. Worst case - well, who knows...

Edited by Risotto on Tuesday 28th September 17:10

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dylan0451

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well this is the car: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2093633.htm

i figure at that mileage / spec / model year, seems pretty good, though i think i'll be getting a full hpi

edo

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dylan0451 said:
well this is the car: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2093633.htm

i figure at that mileage / spec / model year, seems pretty good, though i think i'll be getting a full hpi
WTF? Jog on, you've just found out it was stolen recovered - something that will happen when you sell it.

It is hardly a rare car. Find a clean one.

Gizmo!

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Price feels a bit strong for an E36 328 with mildly dubious history. And are those wheels or castors it's sitting on?

Soovy

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edo said:
dylan0451 said:
well this is the car: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2093633.htm

i figure at that mileage / spec / model year, seems pretty good, though i think i'll be getting a full hpi
WTF? Jog on, you've just found out it was stolen recovered - something that will happen when you sell it.

It is hardly a rare car. Find a clean one.
This.

Stolen recovered, awful alloys. Run.

edo

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Soovy said:
edo said:
dylan0451 said:
well this is the car: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2093633.htm

i figure at that mileage / spec / model year, seems pretty good, though i think i'll be getting a full hpi
WTF? Jog on, you've just found out it was stolen recovered - something that will happen when you sell it.

It is hardly a rare car. Find a clean one.
This.

Stolen recovered, awful alloys. Run.
"never modified or messed with" (apart from when it was ragged to st by some thieves!)

herewego

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1 owner plus me??? My maths may not be good but I don't think that's 1 owner so I'd say he's a tricky seller.

pits

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You can buy an M3 for that type of cash, but something looks odd about it, nice leather interior, 328i clearly well specced but sitting on what appears to be a set of 318i 15" wheels, they just don't look like the correct wheel for that car.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2109536.htm
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2088481.htm (if you can live with the interior, but I think the exterior colour more than makes up for it)

M3
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2113668.htm


Paul Drawmer

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150 months

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Google his phone number

Edited by Paul Drawmer on Tuesday 28th September 18:33

varsas

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£4k for a 328i! yikes if it were a £1500 shed then it wouldn't matter, but at the top end of the market things like this do. You'll never be able to sell it for anything like that with that history.

edo

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Paul Drawmer said:
Google his phone number

Edited by Paul Drawmer on Tuesday 28th September 18:33
GLOL

How many cars for sale?!

dylan0451

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edo said:
Paul Drawmer said:
Google his phone number

Edited by Paul Drawmer on Tuesday 28th September 18:33
GLOL

How many cars for sale?!
to be fair, he did say on the phone that he'd sold his mx5 S ltd for this 328 as a DD.

also, as i read on the driftworks forum he was willing to px for an mx5 again, which is great as i'm looking to sell mine

things never go my way! this would have been a perfect situation!

i seem to be fantastic fleecing bait but:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2014318.htm

isn't that pretty good? price/mileage for a cat D? i'd assume i'd get very little if resale but wouldn't that be a bit of a bargain?

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2039991.htm pap pap shoot gangsta

no, i'm not considering...

who got me into looking at m3's for feck sake....

Edited by dylan0451 on Tuesday 28th September 19:35

edo

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Yes, great idea, dont buy the stolen recovered car, buy a Cat D one instead.
rolleyes

varsas

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That second one looks alright.

If the first one really is Cat D for the engine then that's fine, but how can you tell? I also always get worried when the advert doesn't state mileage, I think we can assume it's sky high.
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