RE: In Detail: Audi Quattro Concept

RE: In Detail: Audi Quattro Concept

Wednesday 6th October 2010

In Detail: Audi Quattro Concept

We have a poke around Audi's Paris show star and chat to the man who styled it



There are probably two things you'll want to know about the new Audi Quattro Concept: is Audi going to build it, and how much is it going to cost? Unfortunately, these are both questions that Audi can't really answer, even off the record.

What the car's British designer, Steve Lewis, could tell me when I managed to grab a chat with him at the VW Group's pre-Paris show bash was that Audi does at least want to make it - this is not a pure pie-in-the-sky dream.

It does, of course, depend on how good the public's reaction to the car is (and the P.H. O'Meter is naturally going to play a crucial role in that), but it seems that a 500-car production run is at least a possibility. As for how much it's going to cost? Well, there's absolutely no line on that, but you'd surely be looking at 911 GT3 territory.

Riggers grabs a souvenir of the moment...
Riggers grabs a souvenir of the moment...
If Audi does build it, Steve reckons that the Quattro Concept could be the first Audi built by Italdesign since Giorgetto Giugiaro's styling house was brought within the VW fold earlier this year. The concept has also been physically created at Italdesign's Turin HQ - the first concept car it's done for the VW group since the takeover - so it would make sense that the Italian firm, whose expertise lies in limited-production specialist models as well as in design, should take responsibility for the car.

The genes of the A5 and RS5 on which the Quattro Concept is based are evident in the curvy haunches, although the car's wheelbase has been shortened by 150mm - a move that adds to the car's agility and also reduces weight. Like the original 1984 Sport Quattro - which was introduced so that the rally car could compete with ever-more extreme Group B rally competitors - the looks of the Quattro Concept are therefore a result of function first and form second, although the rear overhang has been chopped by a significant 200mm to keep the shape balanced, something that was most certainly not done on the 1984 car.


There are plenty of other visual ties to the Sport Quattro, the most obvious of which is the chunky, angled C-pillar. The prominently flared wheelarches, air vent on the right-hand side of the bonnet and blacked-out boot are also visual nods to the car's spiritual ancestor. Inside, there's even an oh-so-Quattro fully digital instrument cluster.

Even if Audi doesn't make this car, the Quattro Concept is a statement of serious intent. Its 1300kg kerb weight (almost identical to the original Sport Quattro's) is getting on for supermini hot hatch lightness and is a clear signal from Audi that it is ready to bring its lightweight technology to bear on mainstream cars. "We've seen what the supercar makers can do with lightweight materials," an Audi insider told me at Paris. "Now it's time to see what the big boys can do."

Steve Lewis, 2010. Biro on notebook
Steve Lewis, 2010. Biro on notebook
The aluminium spaceframe also gets help from carbon fibre - there's some at the front of the car and the bonnet, rear hatch and electrically raising rear spoiler are made from it - and the result is that the 402bhp, 2.5-litre turbocharged five-pot from the TT RS, slung longitudinally, can launch the car to 62mph in around 3.5secs.

The drivetrain, meanwhile is as performance-focused as the rest of the car. Out goes the woolly Haldex four-wheel drive system, to be replaced by the crown-gear differential affair from the RS5. Heck, the concept car even has a proper, honest-to-goodness conventional manual gearbox (with three pedals and everything).

The Sport Quattro has the potential to be the most focused Audi for more than a quarter of a century. Let's hope Ingolstadt has the balls to make it happen.

 







   
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Oddball RS

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1,757 posts

218 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Would look even better without the corporate trout pout.

DJC

23,563 posts

236 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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First the Stratos, now this.

Now Pug, if you *really* want to make the coupe thing sell, you know what to do...

superlightr

12,852 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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The old Audi Quattro floated my boat - this new one doesnt. it doesnt even look exciting - it looks like a scooby.

LayZ

1,625 posts

242 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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GT3 price would be too much, plus that is R8 territory. Not sure it is special enough for north of £80k.

Surely you'd pitch this as Cayman S competition?

kambites

67,547 posts

221 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Is it just me or does that top, side-on picture scream "Corrado"?

Cathar

309 posts

215 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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It's amazing how much better the old one looks.

For a pure overpriced weekend toy, I would have thought the guy with the glasses could have come up with something beyond your average "big wheels, big grille" hot hatch?

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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LayZ said:
GT3 price would be too much, plus that is R8 territory. Not sure it is special enough for north of £80k.

Surely you'd pitch this as Cayman S competition?
Yup, but with 400bhp, 1300kg, all that engineering and a run of just 500 cars? This thing ain't going to be cheap. All right, maybe GT3 is a bit much (call it journalistic license), but I could easily imagine it being north of £70k...

carter711

1,849 posts

198 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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It is about time for a new Corrado and I think it looks awesome from the side/back. The front needs some refining as it looks far too mitsi at the moment.

snotrag

14,457 posts

211 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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carter711 said:
It is about time for a new Corrado and I think it looks awesome from the side/back. The front needs some refining as it looks far too mitsi at the moment.
The Corrado comments are interesting - and yes there are strong hints of it!

But the way I see it - there's already been a Corrado replacement and its been aorund for years - its the Audi TT surely?


Also RE Peugeot.. Oh god yes, lets have a retro rally car revival. Mid engined 2 door 308 anyone?

carter711

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198 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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snotrag said:
carter711 said:
It is about time for a new Corrado and I think it looks awesome from the side/back. The front needs some refining as it looks far too mitsi at the moment.
But the way I see it - there's already been a Corrado replacement and its been aorund for years - its the Audi TT surely?
Really?

snotrag

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211 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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carter711 said:
Really?
Why not? Same company, same price point (relatively), similar type of range range (ie 2 or 3 models, 185/225/V6 and the 16V/g60/VR6) Same sort of audience, TT based on A3/S3/Golf chassis, Corrado was based on its contemporary golf/passat base, both with a lot of effort put into the styling and general 'aura' of the car.

The TT came about not too long after the Corrado died aswell.

it sems pretty obvious to me? anyway, I digress...



WMP

154 posts

199 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Looks great. 402 bhp. Aluminium space frame. Proper 4wd system. Manual gearbox.

Brilliant, I love it!

MogulBoy

2,932 posts

223 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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For some reason, Audi have never been able to repeat the sucess of the the wheel arch extensions that adorned the original UR quattro and it's short wheel based brother...

The sketch above looks OK but in the metal the effect is diluted - and that's even with the controled environment of show lighting!

Even the Q5 looks quite striking when lit from directly above! [Exhibit A]



...but on the road its generally a big let down IMO as are all the A5 variants. The recent RS4 & 6 were a bit better, but no cigar.


Edited by MogulBoy on Wednesday 6th October 11:50

berry100

991 posts

210 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Looks like an EVO X at front to me....

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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I'm not a fan of the front end, but that will undoubtedly be toned down for production.

This however, looks the dogs wotsits:


geoffracing

617 posts

175 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Far far better-proportioned than the old one, but still rather ugly.
Huge grille, nasty eyes, and perhaps even rather dull compared to the competition...

Mark Wibble

211 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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carter711 said:
snotrag said:
carter711 said:
It is about time for a new Corrado and I think it looks awesome from the side/back. The front needs some refining as it looks far too mitsi at the moment.
But the way I see it - there's already been a Corrado replacement and its been aorund for years - its the Audi TT surely?
Really?
So this isn't achieved by the new Scirocco then...?!

kambites

67,547 posts

221 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Mark Wibble said:
So this isn't achieved by the new Scirocco then...?!
The new Scirocco is rather different in ethos to the Corrado. The Scirocco is largely just a slightly squashed Golf; the Corrado was very different car to the contemporary Golf, having a different wheel base and track, suspension geometry, and indeed just about everything else.

I'm not sure, but I think even the TT probably shares more design with the current Golf than the Corrado did with the mk2 or mk3 Golf.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 6th October 13:03

SR06

749 posts

186 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Ha! The Corrado has finally come of age!


vintageracer01

873 posts

175 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Beefmeister said:
I'm not a fan of the front end, but that will undoubtedly be toned down for production.

This however, looks the dogs wotsits:

This one is definitely more exciting!!!
Where did you take this picture?