Thursday 14th October 2010
Audi S1 On Its Way - With Quattro
4x4 platform-share plan to deliver hot Audi and VW Polo R
PH first learned that
Audi has been tinkering with a Quattro option for the A1 back in June - and now we hear the programme to create a range-topping S1 has been given the go-ahead.
According to an Autocar article today, a 4x4 platform re-engineering job is considered cost-effective within the VW group as it will result in a trio of new models including the Audi S1, a new Volkswagen Polo R and something called a 'CrossPolo'. (Which may very well have just received its first and last mention here on PH.)
As a result, the 182bhp 1.4TFSI Audi won't be the A1 range flagship, and instead we'll get something altogether more interesting - hopefully with the grunt to match the looks of the stickered-up Urquattro tribute version we're currently forced to recycle pictures of...
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goron59
Original Poster
285 posts
40 months
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I like, although I'd like an RS1 more please.
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steveb8189
53 posts
60 months
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Stick in a 2.0T 210ps and I think it will sell well. Remap to 260 and it will fly :-)
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homerjay
1,222 posts
94 months
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so what thought was the s1 is not actually the s1?
if so, how pissed are those people who ordered the a1 1.4 tfsi sline was the s1
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N88
1,085 posts
48 months
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Will be interesting to see just how quick they make it.
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edo
12,549 posts
134 months
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steveb8189 said: Stick in a 2.0T 210ps and I think it will sell well. Remap to 260 and it will fly :-) bugger that. put the 265 S3 engine in it, or better still the 340bhp out of the TTRS if it will fit!
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ktm301p
664 posts
58 months
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Is there any rumour of Audi competing in WRC?
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istoo
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71 months
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ImDesigner
1,577 posts
63 months
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That splash of colour in the interior looks a bit aftermarket.
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zakelwe
4,449 posts
67 months
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They do nee to upgrade from the 1.4 then in that case.
Andy
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JohnGoodridge
282 posts
64 months
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edo said: steveb8189 said: Stick in a 2.0T 210ps and I think it will sell well. Remap to 260 and it will fly :-) bugger that. put the 265 S3 engine in it, or better still the 340bhp out of the TTRS if it will fit! +1. Which market niche is this aimed at though? I suspect it's going to be more of a Mini JCW rival with 200 - 220bhp, rather than take on the BMW 1 M although that's what I'd like to see (5-pot RS3 anyone?)
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sklar
873 posts
85 months
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Made-up news. Auto Express would be proud. Quiet news day at Autocar. In a classic Autocar twist in a couple of weeks there will be an article saying that Audi were continuing to look into it but have decided against it in the present climate due to 'other considerations'
There's not even room to stick a manual gearbox on the 1.4 Twincharger - where are they going to find room for all the extra gubbins a 4wd system (even Haldex) needs a place for?
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wab172uk
874 posts
96 months
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JohnGoodridge said: edo said: steveb8189 said: Stick in a 2.0T 210ps and I think it will sell well. Remap to 260 and it will fly :-) bugger that. put the 265 S3 engine in it, or better still the 340bhp out of the TTRS if it will fit! +1. Which market niche is this aimed at though? I suspect it's going to be more of a Mini JCW rival with 200 - 220bhp, rather than take on the BMW 1 M although that's what I'd like to see (5-pot RS3 anyone?) Isn't the RS3 out next year? Would suspect it'll have the TTRS engine. I'd like to see a S1 with 265bhp. I'd deffo buy one. Will be expensive, but if it ain't too heavy, and it handles well, it'll be a gem of a car.
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Hitch78
3,835 posts
63 months
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homerjay said: so what thought was the s1 is not actually the s1?
if so, how pissed are those people who ordered the a1 1.4 tfsi sline was the s1
Eh? Did you edit that?! Surely those who ordered a 1.4tfsi S Line knew it wasn't the S1 because it was called the 1.4tfsi S Line and not the S1.
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ZesPak
11,484 posts
65 months
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ImDesigner said: That splash of colour in the interior looks a bit aftermarket.  Yes, I was surprised to see some colour in a VAG interior too. That said, I've seen one on the road an I must say I can't see why people would chose it over a new Polo, which looks 10x better imho.
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y2blade
46,232 posts
84 months
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are the usual brain dead Audi/VAG/AWD haters here yet? no?.....good It looks fantastic and will be one hell of a good road car 
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doogz
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56 months
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y2blade said: are the usual brain dead Audi/VAG/AWD haters here yet? no?.....good It looks fantastic and will be one hell of a good road car Really? you don't think it will be far too heavy for a car that size, with no real feel, due to horrible runflat tyres and jelly like compliance bushes matched with spring and damper rates that are way too high to give it that "sporty Audi" feel, and lots of electrics to stop you having any proper fun? And that it won't look like every other Audi does on the inside? And i use to own an Audi.
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Hitch78
3,835 posts
63 months
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It could be epic if they power it up to about 270-300bhp. Any less and the 4x4 and weight of the general kit will sap it. Somewhere around 5.5s to 60 should do it.
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vintageracer01
855 posts
44 months
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And there will be back in rally?
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ctallchris
1,247 posts
48 months
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Looks a bit "New Citroen" with the colour scheme. Probably put there to distract people from seeing it is just a slightly smaller A3
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FamilyDub
2,966 posts
34 months
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The current range-topper is the 1.4 S-Line A1 - it's £18,655.
That'll easily mean an OTR price of £20k+ (or more, knowing VAG's ridiculous pricing a the moment) for any reputed 'S' variant.
Excuse my curtness, but that's stupid money for such a small car.
Also, if this IS to happen, it NEEDS to have a bigger capacity engine - as mentioned in some other posts - such as the 2.0T in 265PS tune.
"Yeah, that's right mum, I've just paid nearly £25k for a 1.4 litre Polo/A1". Pfft.
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