Alternator Cut In Point

Alternator Cut In Point

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Gerald-TVR

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4,896 posts

198 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Having changed my alternator recently I have noticed I need to rev to 2000rpm before the alternator starts charging.

My memory (which I very doutful these days) tells me the old generator cut in much earlier, at what point does your alternator cu tin please

Norman

phillpot

17,119 posts

184 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Thought around 2000revs was "normal"

Didn't someone much cleverer than me (Bobhon ?)come up with a resistor or diode or whatever you can wire into circuit to get alternator to kick in earlier ??

GadgeS3C

4,516 posts

165 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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The alternator on my S3 starts charging at about 2,000rpm. Believe the bible mentions this specifically for the S3 on.

motomatchless

123 posts

169 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Hello to all S fans, this in common to all S's, but don't you think it is because the alternator revs too slowly! Did anybody try a smaller alternator pulley to make it turn faster?
Am I right???????
Christian.


Edited by motomatchless on Friday 15th October 18:48

jay jay bee

143 posts

179 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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My 1991 S3C alternator light goes out at 2000 rpm

phillpot

17,119 posts

184 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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motomatchless said:
Did anybody try a smaller alternator pulley to make it turn faster?
Am I right???????
Christian.
No !

when your engines doing what it should do, loads of revs, poor little alternator will be spinning away
like crazy.

motomatchless

123 posts

169 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Tomorrow I will check the pulleys diam on my S to see what is the alternator speed at lets say 6500 rpm (crank).
Modern alternators are made to support 18000 rpm.
http://rb-kwin.bosch.com/en/automotivetechnology/o...
I also have to check what rpm 1990's alternators can support.
Chris.

phillpot

17,119 posts

184 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Good luck with your calculations but at the end of the day they are the pulleys Ford chose ( and they probably spend a bob or two on development) thumbup


I find it easy enough to give the throttle a little "blip" to get the alternator going (and the nieghbours when going on an early Sunday morning run) and all is well (with the car, not the neighbours) laugh.

motomatchless

123 posts

169 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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You are absolutely right, I checked the pulleys to find that the alternator turns two times faster than the crank.If I could find a smaller pulley I will try it.
This is not a priority for me and I can live with that.;)
I am sure that one day, somebody will tell us why this happens on our cars.
Forecast for tomorrow seems ok and I feel like Ill have a ride with the tvr tomorrow.
Which the same for all of you.
Chris.


Griffinr

1,017 posts

175 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Gerald-TVR said:
Having changed my alternator recently I have noticed I need to rev to 2000rpm before the alternator starts charging.

My memory (which I very doutful these days) tells me the old generator cut in much earlier, at what point does your alternator cu tin please

Norman
This is normal, mine cut in at 2300 until I modified the circuit. You can lower the cut in speed by putting a larger wattage bulb in the warning lamp or wiring another bulb in parallel with the existing one. I added an additional 1.2 watt panel bulb and the alternator now cuts in at about 1300. I did a more detailed post on this a while ago but I can't find it at the moment. The charge warning panel bulb provides the initiation current for the alternator so the bigger the bulb the more current and the sooner it cuts in.

Edited by Griffinr on Sunday 17th October 22:13

tvrgit

8,472 posts

253 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Yep, there is a specific reason why the engine has to be revved (just once) above 2,500 revs or so to get the alternator to start charging. I can't remember what that reason is though.

After that initial "kick-in" rev, the alternator charges just fine all the time, whatever the revs. It's no great strain to give it that initial rev, even if you wait till you're half a mile from your house if your leaving in the quiet hours.

Anyway, the solution is NOT to fit a smaller pulley - all that does is wear the alternator out faster for no real benefit.

motomatchless

123 posts

169 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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That's it!!! I am again a little bit more clever(never too old to learn)!!!!
This is really a great forum with great people helping each other.
Many thanks,
Chris.

Road2Ruin

5,241 posts

217 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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My alternator, rather bizareley, like to change at which point it cuts in. When it is cold it cuts in about 2700 rpm and when hot about 2200rpm!