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andrew tolley

Original Poster:

101 posts

128 months

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Monday 18th October 2010 quote quote all
great looking tvr tuscan v8 for sale on pistonheads for £25,000, wish i had the cash.

markbigears

1,507 posts

152 months

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Wednesday 20th October 2010 quote quote all
I know the seller, top guy and what a car!

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

74 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
Is it the real deal or a vixen conversion?

heightswitch

4,134 posts

133 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
TVR_owner said:
Is it the real deal or a vixen conversion?
With an S3 bodyshell it can only be an S3 Vixen or late converted Tuscan V6

N

GTRene

8,533 posts

107 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
if you mean this one its really gorgeous by looks...love that wide body looks.
color and shape of the mouth? its different/bigger I guess....nice.



Edited by GTRene on Friday 22 October 17:41

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62GRANTIII

151 posts

76 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
As Neil said, it is a conversion !
Instant give away, it has quarter lights !
I know Mr Venn's mate's Russ, converted a green V6 Tuscan to V8 in 80's !!

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

74 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
Why can't folk be more honest?

Adrian@

2,641 posts

165 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
62GRANTIII said:
As Neil said, it is a conversion !
Instant give away, it has quarter lights !
I know Mr Venn's mate's Russ, converted a green V6 Tuscan to V8 in 80's !!
Oh...Russ bought a V6 that had been converted to a V8 by the previous owner, there is a little more to the story....but that is for others to tell. Richard Carter then purchased and sold it to someone in Australia or New Zealand.
Adrian@

GAjon

1,846 posts

96 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
Dubious as it's journey to where it is now may be, it is a good looking TVR.

Eta, bloody iPhone posted before I was ready, that is of course if the seller is claiming it is not what it is.

Edited by GAjon on Friday 22 October 21:25

GTRene

8,533 posts

107 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
TVR_owner said:
Why can't folk be more honest?
it never said it is a genuine tuscan V8

it says Tuscan LWB and rebuild etc...
I think it looks lovely and very much I want that too biggrin
love to see more of the engine and interior etc...

here is that ad

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2177415.htm

wish I had 25K spare and a bigger garage biggrin

heightswitch

4,134 posts

133 months

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Friday 22nd October 2010 quote quote all
GTRene said:
TVR_owner said:
Why can't folk be more honest?
it never said it is a genuine tuscan V8

it says Tuscan LWB and rebuild etc...
I think it looks lovely and very much I want that too biggrin
love to see more of the engine and interior etc...

here is that ad

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2177415.htm

wish I had 25K spare and a bigger garage biggrin
In fairness I think the price adequately describes that the car is not being mis-represented.

If it was a £50k tuscan V8 then people may be misled.
N

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

74 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
IF It's s Vixen with a V8, at what point did it become a LWB Tuscan?

Value is an other story....not really anything to do with representation.

Edited by TVR_owner on Saturday 23 October 08:41

Adrian@

2,641 posts

165 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
NOW, for the forum and I need a lesson in these cars Neil .....a picture of what is the latest FIA agreed cars absolute standard and FIA...because as I understand it, most of the cars previously eligible are no longer eligible and the current owners have choices to make.
Adrian@

heightswitch

4,134 posts

133 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
TVR_owner said:
IF It's s Vixen with a V8, at what point did it become a LWB Tuscan?

Value is an other story....not really anything to do with representation.

Edited by TVR_owner on Saturday 23 October 08:41
If the Car was a TVR Tuscan (V6) and the advert then states it has a V8 and the car is a LWB chassis. The advert stating that the car is a TVR Tuscan V8 LWB is factually correct scratchchin

The question you need to be asking is what was the description of the car when it left Blackpool in 1970! I dont see much wrong with the advert. I know you get much more anal than me about originality but if it is a Tuscan V6 then their isn't much difference anyhow and the most important thing is the price being right for what the car is.

Their were only 10 UK spec Tuscan LWB's built (original ones)

Adrian@

2,641 posts

165 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
IS it one of the 10 then?
Adrian@
Being rather anal....

heightswitch

4,134 posts

133 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
Adrian@ said:
NOW, for the forum and I need a lesson in these cars Neil .....a picture of what is the latest FIA agreed cars absolute standard and FIA...because as I understand it, most of the cars previously eligible are no longer eligible and the current owners have choices to make.
Adrian@
That would be a very long e-mail Adrian.

But as short as I can:

Std body 400 kamm tail car running max 7" wheels No issue.

Beetle back MK3 granny shaped griffith some issue as to whether homologated and whether any ran in an international race so as far as I am aware they are not now recognised by Fia.

Wide arched version (similar but not exactly the same) as seen in advert on this thread. These are the accepted arch configurations which have been proven to have existed on the EH M Paul car which raced in 65 / 66 in an international event. as such after much struggle they have been accepted as FIa compliant (until they start spanking the opposition again)

Final cars are the Wide arched but standard shaped 400 kamm tail cars with 8" wheels which The Fia have chosen to make an example of and are now banned

So what we now have in Fia is a lot of genuine griffiths which are no longer accepted because they followed the homologation docs as were and now HTP replicas of the EH M Paul car which are accepted as a re-creation of a car that raced in period.

Isn't historic racing a funny old world?? Heres me thiunking it was about racing something old rather than something that looks old!!

The Fia have created a situation where you are faced with a choice between changing the bodywork of an original car or building an HTP replica.

N

Edited by heightswitch on Saturday 23 October 09:50

thegamekeeper

2,190 posts

165 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
Isn,t anal a great 4 letter word

Edited by thegamekeeper on Saturday 23 October 12:04

Adrian@

2,641 posts

165 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
What....better than Alan.
Adrian@laugh
Thanks Neal..we need pictures

Edited by Adrian@ on Saturday 23 October 12:56

thegamekeeper

2,190 posts

165 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
why is dyslexic so hard to spell? While we are being alan, what is the difference between a Tuscan LWB and an LWB Tuscan? What have Griffiths and FIA/HTP go to do with any of this? Your short answer could have been shorter neil if you referrred to the cars as Griffith 200 and Griffith 400 and if people didn,t know the difference they probably wouldn,t be reading this anyway!
Whatever it is it looks a great car and well proven at driving for a minute at a time. Sensible option would be to buy it, sell the engine and gearbox etc and convert it back to what it was. Dont laugh, somebody is already doing it.

Edited by thegamekeeper on Saturday 23 October 13:03


Edited by thegamekeeper on Saturday 23 October 13:22

Adrian@

2,641 posts

165 months

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Saturday 23rd October 2010 quote quote all
My reason for mentioning the FIA was that in my understanding, any car of that era (real,copies and or any other) are perhaps being being pitched as potential race cars where there is issues above and beyond the purchase of the car these days.
Adrian@
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