RE: Driven: Porsche 911 Speedster

RE: Driven: Porsche 911 Speedster

Thursday 4th November 2010

Driven: Porsche 911 Speedster

Collectable future classic, or cute sales job from Stuttgart? Delete as appropriate...



£144,100 is an awful lot of money for what is essentially a roofless, naturally aspirated 911. So whatever else you read about the new 911 Speedster, however impressive (or not) you find its specification or its exclusivity, the debate usually gets back to that price tag.


This is another 911 variant launched as the current 997 'generation' reaches the end of the line. Think of it as a twin brother to the Sport Classic model of last year, for like that car it's a product of the Porsche Exclusive department, usually associated with individual and sometimes garish one-off interiors as well as assorted bodykits and other modifications.

The Speedster itself is a much older phenomenon, born in the 1950s through a request by Porsche's importer in America for a back-to-basics 356 that cost less and went harder. Porsche reintroduced this idea with both 3.2 Carrera and 964-based versions back in the late 80s/early 90s, and although more 'collectors curiosity' than 'weekend warrior' they're enjoyable cars full of character. Now they're having another go.


But first back to the price issue. Whatever your thoughts, the fact is that Porsche spoke to the people it thought would want such a creation in advance, and then built the car accordingly for them. There will be just 356 made (see what they've done there?) and Porsche expects to allocate them to customers after the car has been shown in America, sure to be a receptive market. All of the UK's allocation are sold already and seeing as we know there will be slightly less of them coming here than the Sport Classic, the best guess is that something like 25 will reach these shores. You can bet that their owners will already have a Porsche, or three, in the garage.



Much like the Sport Classic, I reckon the Speedster has a more impressive aura 'in the metal' than it does in some of the photos, where its bulbous rear could at best be called ungainly. The width to height ratio and the eye-wateringly strong 'Pure Blue' paintwork (white is the only other option); the retro Fuchs-style wheels and subtle gloss black details all combine to make it look more than the sum of its parts.


Those parts, of course, are the amalgamation of various 911 models. The Speedster has a wider body normally reserved for the Carrera 4 and Turbo models (and the GT3 RS) but with rear-wheel drive. To that is added a powerkit 'S" engine (402bhp and 310lb ft of torque), carbon ceramic brake discs, a twin-clutch 'PDK' gearbox (manual is not an option), limited slip diff, adaptive sports seats, cruise control and sat nav - almost every option possible on the list.

The genuinely special parts - and where real money has been spent in homologation - are the new roof and safety systems. In true Porsche Speedster style the windscreen has been cut down by 60mm, while the roof is unique. It's raised and lowered via a combination of electric and manual effort, and its quality and weatherproofing are far removed from the tent-like affair on the Boxster Spyder. When lowered it's stowed underneath the distinctive aluminium rear deck. Despite this material usage, along with aluminium doors and the simpler hood mechanism, the Speedster weighs exactly the same as a standard Carrera S convertible.


Otherwise, the car is peppered with small details from Exclusive: blue chequer pattern on the black leather seats; leather air vents; anodised black sills with build number; glossy black exhaust pipes - you get the idea.

Again, like the Sport Classic the combination of the wider track with the rear-wheel drive chassis seems to elevate this car above the regular Carrera models for ride and handling (something that bodes well for the forthcoming GTS). The unvalved sports exhaust has a delicious note too: less rasp than the usual sports exhaust, but a deeper, more melodious tone that's addictive on the ears. Unsurprisingly, it's very quick indeed.


Of course, for most of us the thought of what could be bought for the same money - even still buying within the current Porsche range - make this car an absolute non-starter. And it doesn't exactly live up to the purist, simple spirit of the original 356 model. But the Speedster looks different, feels and sounds special and drives very nicely, and you can't help but feel that those who have bought one already will be pleased, not only to bolster their collections, but also for the occasional drive. For Porsche, that's job done.







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ludicrous speed

Original Poster:

959 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Looks like a blob of snot after snorting blue powder paint.

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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I do like those alloys lick , still undecided on the car though..

kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Well, I think it looks marginally better than the standard 997 cab, but there is no way to my mind that it's worth nearly double the money. Still, if people are willing to pay Porsche that much for exclusivity, good luck to them.

Squabbler

3,139 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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How stupid are those seats? Modded saxo style.

1000TCR

161 posts

208 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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I really like Porsche, but for this price you can almost get a GT3 AND a Boxster... That is just ridiculous

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Fugly as fug.

Super, super hideous.

My eyes. Oh my eyes.

Supersonic7

38 posts

178 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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YAWN.........by the laws of averages, in 28 days, we will have another 911 model launched!!!

Seriously Porsche just get on with launching the 998 model instead of churning out yet more 997-2 editions, its getting boring now.

WCZ

10,516 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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the car has two main issues in my opinion:

1) it looks hideous
2) it's insanely over priced.

RichardD

3,560 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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WCZ said:
...2) it's insanely over priced.
Assuming all of them get sold, it could be under priced!

A911DOM

4,084 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Looks better with the hood up - which surely is not the idea.

Im a big 911 fan, but Im afraid this is just a load of marketing guff, trying to create a 'collectable' model.

Yes I'd love one, but no more than any other 997 model.

Daggerpie

1,434 posts

201 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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This is the first time i've seen an image with the hood up, I actually really like it,(and its parts bin quirkyness! especially in that blue as well.

Of course its over priced compared to a standard 997 Cab and you cannot justify the extra BUT maybe the people who have put there name down on this Ltd edition aren't to bothered about that. Same rule applies for the 997 Sports Classic.

Also,if it follows suit on its Speedster predecesors, then it could even be a great investment.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Porsche dealerships must have incredible salespeople.

Whitean3

2,184 posts

198 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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A911DOM said:
Im a big 911 fan, but Im afraid this is just a load of marketing guff, trying to create a 'collectable' model.
Couldn't agree more. I don't think it looks good at all, windscreen aside. Why would you need/want one of these, when you could buy a decent Boxster for a quarter of the price? I like the '80s and '90s Speedsters- they do look genuinely cool; the 997 is just too bulbous at the back for it to work for me.

I hate the Barryboy clear rear light lenses too (also on the Sport Classic; and now an option on other 911s)- the regular 997.2 lenses look so much better.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Dagnut said:
Porsche dealerships must have incredible salespeople.
Unfortunately, they don't need to sell this car. It sells itself.

No-one is going to walk into a dealership, expecting to pay £110,000 for a 997 Turbo PDK Cab, and get 'upsold' to a car with less power, rubbish roof and ugly rear.

Well ok, maybe one or two. The majority are going to go to collectors.

edit: I mean seriously, who at Porsche thought that was a nice rear view?!



Edited by Beefmeister on Thursday 4th November 12:49

Yorkshirepud

136 posts

184 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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I like it.

When is the 998 out? Looking forward to Jeremy Clarkson taking the pee about it not being any different.

lowdrag

12,879 posts

213 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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A friend of mine bought a Speedster in 1989 as an investment. It sat in his garage for yesrs and eventually was sold at a loss. I think they fetch around £30,000 still - or did when I last looked which wasn't recently. Yet another Porsche marketing exercise.

JohnGoodridge

529 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Porsche Motorsport Division = Engineering Excellence = Exciting; Porsche Exclusive Department = Marketing = Not so exciting.

Now if they both worked on a common project, then we could be in for some fun....

HAB

3,632 posts

227 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Just doesn't work visually, modern 911's are just too fat arsed to work as a Speedster. Even the air cooled ones versions were a bit awkward from the rear, come to think of it


Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Like the 911 convertible it shares it's looks with it has a fat arse. I see so many drop top 911s round here and wonder to myself how on earth the owner could ever think it looks good.

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Perhaps the only 'cabrio' that looks better with the roof up?



That looks great!