REALLY URGENT HELP REQ.!
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clio mk2 1.6 rsi - twin headlamp with one being dipped and the other main beam.
on tuesday i noticed the nearside dipped bulb had gone. nowhere was open so i went and bought one last night - wrong bloody bulb! drove to work today hoping to swap it on the way home.
just been out to the car, turned on the lights and i now have no dipped beam at all and only one sidelight. i am 50miles from home although only a 10 min taxi from halfords which is thankfully open until 8pm.
it seems suspicious that both bulbs have gone. for full disclousre i changed all bulbs to halfords extreme brilliance +90% one, but this surely shouldn't make a difference.
i think i may have popped a fuse, but have no idea which is which without my haynes, and tinterweb isn't helping so far.
just about to find security to borrow a torch. i really don't want to get the train home. any help re: fuses will be rewarded with virtual mulled wine and mince pies.
clio mk2 1.6 rsi - twin headlamp with one being dipped and the other main beam.
on tuesday i noticed the nearside dipped bulb had gone. nowhere was open so i went and bought one last night - wrong bloody bulb! drove to work today hoping to swap it on the way home.
just been out to the car, turned on the lights and i now have no dipped beam at all and only one sidelight. i am 50miles from home although only a 10 min taxi from halfords which is thankfully open until 8pm.
it seems suspicious that both bulbs have gone. for full disclousre i changed all bulbs to halfords extreme brilliance +90% one, but this surely shouldn't make a difference.
i think i may have popped a fuse, but have no idea which is which without my haynes, and tinterweb isn't helping so far.
just about to find security to borrow a torch. i really don't want to get the train home. any help re: fuses will be rewarded with virtual mulled wine and mince pies.
F1 Airbag 15A Airbag
F2 Stop 15A Brake lights, Instrument panel, Shift pattern control, Diagnostic socket, Driving school, Opening alert, Cruise control speed limiter control, Mobile phone connection,
Electric door mirror control.
F3 Fan in a box 15A Windscreen wiper compound control, Reversing lights switch, Air conditioning control panel, Passenger compartment temperature sensor fan, Air conditioning control unit, Footwell vents air conditioning distribution motor, Rain sensor computer, Starter relay, Discharge bulb ECU, Headlight adjuster motors,
F4 Wiper 20A Windscreen wiper
F5 (ABS) 10A ABS system
F6 Fan in box 10A Multi-timer unit, Air conditioning computer
F7 Radio 15A Radio, Cigarette lighter, Clock, Courtesy mirror, Heated rear screen relay, Central communication unit, Fuses and relays
F8 Horn 15A Horn
F9 Downwards facing headlight with arrow pointing to left 15A Left-hand dipped headlight
F10 Downwards facing headlight with arrow pointing to right 15A Right-hand dipped headlight
F11 Straight facing headlight with arrow pointing to right 10A Right-hand main beam headlight
F12 Straight facing headlight with arrow pointing to left 10A Left-hand main beam headlight
F13 window with wiper 20A Rear screen wiper (via UCH)
F17 Errr loaf of bread with swirly lines going though it 10A Heated door mirrors
F18 Downwards facing light 20A Front fog lights
F19 Up and downrdwards facing arrows 30A Passenger electric windows
F20 Letter UCH 20A Driver's electric windows (via UCH)
F21 Overhead view of car with doors open 5A Multi-timer unit, Diagnostic socket, Central door locking control, Instrument panel
F22 Left and right facing arrows 15A Indicators and hazard warning lights (via UCH)
F23 Right facing light 15A Rear fog light
F26 Lightbulb with left pointing arrow 10A Left-hand side lights - Interior control lighting
F27 Lightbulb with right pointing arrow 10A Right-hand side lights - Interior control lighting
F29 Lightbulb 20A Consumer cut-out - Interior lights, Radio, Clock
F30 Window with lines going up 30A Heated rear screen (via UCH)
F31 Overheard view of car with open doors 20A Central door locking (via UCH)
F33 Headlight in a box with umbrella 20A Headlight washers
F34 Box with fan in it 20A Heating/air conditioning fan unit
F35 Seat with lines off the bottom part 20A Heated seats (via UCH)
F36 Up and downward facing arrow 30A Passenger electric windows (via UCH)
F37 Letter UCH 10A UCH, Decoder unit
F38 Emply square box (not used as such) Preparing for caravan connection (30A max)
F39 Stearing wheel 15A Electric power steering
Relays
The relays are located on the UCH these are the things that click away switching things on etc. Theres no particular oder realy as somc ecars do and some don't have certain features
Number 1 and 2 are part of one relay
1 (part A of the relay): daytime running lights
2 (part B of the relay): daytime running lights monitor
Relay 3 and 4 are part of one relay
3 (part A of the relay) front fog lights
4 (part B of the relay) dipped daytime running lights
Relay 5 and 6 are part of one relay
5 (part A of the relay) headlight washers pump 1
6 (part A of the relay) headlight washers pump 2
7 is a seperate relay rear electric window control
F2 Stop 15A Brake lights, Instrument panel, Shift pattern control, Diagnostic socket, Driving school, Opening alert, Cruise control speed limiter control, Mobile phone connection,
Electric door mirror control.
F3 Fan in a box 15A Windscreen wiper compound control, Reversing lights switch, Air conditioning control panel, Passenger compartment temperature sensor fan, Air conditioning control unit, Footwell vents air conditioning distribution motor, Rain sensor computer, Starter relay, Discharge bulb ECU, Headlight adjuster motors,
F4 Wiper 20A Windscreen wiper
F5 (ABS) 10A ABS system
F6 Fan in box 10A Multi-timer unit, Air conditioning computer
F7 Radio 15A Radio, Cigarette lighter, Clock, Courtesy mirror, Heated rear screen relay, Central communication unit, Fuses and relays
F8 Horn 15A Horn
F9 Downwards facing headlight with arrow pointing to left 15A Left-hand dipped headlight
F10 Downwards facing headlight with arrow pointing to right 15A Right-hand dipped headlight
F11 Straight facing headlight with arrow pointing to right 10A Right-hand main beam headlight
F12 Straight facing headlight with arrow pointing to left 10A Left-hand main beam headlight
F13 window with wiper 20A Rear screen wiper (via UCH)
F17 Errr loaf of bread with swirly lines going though it 10A Heated door mirrors
F18 Downwards facing light 20A Front fog lights
F19 Up and downrdwards facing arrows 30A Passenger electric windows
F20 Letter UCH 20A Driver's electric windows (via UCH)
F21 Overhead view of car with doors open 5A Multi-timer unit, Diagnostic socket, Central door locking control, Instrument panel
F22 Left and right facing arrows 15A Indicators and hazard warning lights (via UCH)
F23 Right facing light 15A Rear fog light
F26 Lightbulb with left pointing arrow 10A Left-hand side lights - Interior control lighting
F27 Lightbulb with right pointing arrow 10A Right-hand side lights - Interior control lighting
F29 Lightbulb 20A Consumer cut-out - Interior lights, Radio, Clock
F30 Window with lines going up 30A Heated rear screen (via UCH)
F31 Overheard view of car with open doors 20A Central door locking (via UCH)
F33 Headlight in a box with umbrella 20A Headlight washers
F34 Box with fan in it 20A Heating/air conditioning fan unit
F35 Seat with lines off the bottom part 20A Heated seats (via UCH)
F36 Up and downward facing arrow 30A Passenger electric windows (via UCH)
F37 Letter UCH 10A UCH, Decoder unit
F38 Emply square box (not used as such) Preparing for caravan connection (30A max)
F39 Stearing wheel 15A Electric power steering
Relays
The relays are located on the UCH these are the things that click away switching things on etc. Theres no particular oder realy as somc ecars do and some don't have certain features
Number 1 and 2 are part of one relay
1 (part A of the relay): daytime running lights
2 (part B of the relay): daytime running lights monitor
Relay 3 and 4 are part of one relay
3 (part A of the relay) front fog lights
4 (part B of the relay) dipped daytime running lights
Relay 5 and 6 are part of one relay
5 (part A of the relay) headlight washers pump 1
6 (part A of the relay) headlight washers pump 2
7 is a seperate relay rear electric window control
pretty sure the halfords extreme brilliance use the same wattage as regular bulbs, just a blueish tint to make you think its brighter. Their upped wattage bulbs are marked as 'rally - off road use only' or something.
probably just bad luck on the bulbs, have you got aa coverage? if not, can you get it to halfords to get them to replace the bulbs? might be that bulb 1 went in such a way to short the circuit?
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probably just bad luck on the bulbs, have you got aa coverage? if not, can you get it to halfords to get them to replace the bulbs? might be that bulb 1 went in such a way to short the circuit?
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doogz said:
What power rating are these new bulbs?
You might be lucky, and have only blown a fuse. You might have melted your wiring loom by pulling 100W or so through a wire intended to see 60W max.
As for fuses, there can't be that many, start pulling them out one by one, see if you find a blown one.
I tried to look for a power rating on the Halfwits website, and this is what it says:
"It not possible to give a wattage equivalent for the Extreme
Brilliance as the measure of the overall light improvement is the
increase on the road ahead compared to that of a standard bulb. The light output will be affected by the design age and quality of the headlight unit."
What sort of muppet wrote that? Oh yeah, someone that works for Halfords. It's a pretty simple question, but no, it draws a magic number of some unknown unit of power, that can't be measured in any known quantity.
This is why i don't buy s
t from Halfords.
Extreme Brilliance lamps only come in standard wattages - i.e. 55w for single filament, 60/55w for H4. I haven't looked at the website, but I'm fairly sure the packaging shows this quite clearly.....You might be lucky, and have only blown a fuse. You might have melted your wiring loom by pulling 100W or so through a wire intended to see 60W max.
As for fuses, there can't be that many, start pulling them out one by one, see if you find a blown one.
I tried to look for a power rating on the Halfwits website, and this is what it says:
"It not possible to give a wattage equivalent for the Extreme
Brilliance as the measure of the overall light improvement is the
increase on the road ahead compared to that of a standard bulb. The light output will be affected by the design age and quality of the headlight unit."
What sort of muppet wrote that? Oh yeah, someone that works for Halfords. It's a pretty simple question, but no, it draws a magic number of some unknown unit of power, that can't be measured in any known quantity.
This is why i don't buy s
t from Halfords.Fairly radical and the police won't like it if you do it wrong, but gaffer tape over the BOTTOM part of the lights and drive on high beam. Keep adjusting the height of the blacked-out bit until your beam is definitely dipped.
It's fairly obvious, but here's how you check. Stand next to the light, put your finger on your leg at the top of the lit-up area. Move backwards and make sure the lit-up section moves lower.
All at your own risk, obviously. I'd be tempted to drive to Halfords first if they're closer than home, and ask them to look at it.
ETA: Another tip, when checking fuses, take out one at a time, check it, put it back etc. That way, you won't mix them up.
It's fairly obvious, but here's how you check. Stand next to the light, put your finger on your leg at the top of the lit-up area. Move backwards and make sure the lit-up section moves lower.
All at your own risk, obviously. I'd be tempted to drive to Halfords first if they're closer than home, and ask them to look at it.
ETA: Another tip, when checking fuses, take out one at a time, check it, put it back etc. That way, you won't mix them up.
Edited by -Pete- on Thursday 16th December 18:05
OP - 1. It is not unusual for both lamps to fail at about the same time. Same life expectancy and all that, and 2. Headlights are usually fused side to side - i.e. left side on a different fuse to right side to prevent sudden darkness, and 3. High-output lamps can have a much shorter life than ordinary lamps.
I still suspect the lamps rather than two fuses.
I still suspect the lamps rather than two fuses.
i couldn't get away with driving at all - m18 an m62 all the way home and the unmarked fleet will be out in force at this time of year. that thought lasted all of 1 second.
i found the haynes manual in the boot fortunately, as i'd never have thought to look there for the fusebox
all fuses ok, checked one bulb and the filament had gone so bought a pair of bosch replacements. currently warming up in the office before fitting as i turned into an ice cube on the walk into town.
strange though for both to go, they've only been in a couple of months. lesson learned, they aren't called halfrauds for nothing.
i found the haynes manual in the boot fortunately, as i'd never have thought to look there for the fusebox
all fuses ok, checked one bulb and the filament had gone so bought a pair of bosch replacements. currently warming up in the office before fitting as i turned into an ice cube on the walk into town.
strange though for both to go, they've only been in a couple of months. lesson learned, they aren't called halfrauds for nothing.
useyourdellusion said:
It could be a fuse, but when this happened to one of my cars it turned out to be a poor contact in my indicator stalk. All the wiring for the lights passed through it. That was a mid-Eighties Ford though.
I had no dipped beam but main beam and sides still worked..
On my old a6 , faulty hazard switch caused all the main beam not to work I had no dipped beam but main beam and sides still worked..
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