MOT with frozen windscreen washer jets?

MOT with frozen windscreen washer jets?

Author
Discussion

parapaul

Original Poster:

2,828 posts

213 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Just wondering as it's MOT time in a couple of weeks...

Windscreen washer jets are a testable item - http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_820.htm

Mine haven't worked since the end of November as they're frozen solid. Is there any kind of dispensation for this, or do I need to leave a blow heater in front of the car for an hour to try and melt what's in the bottle before its test?

I wonder how many people have failed MOTs in the last month for this?

Egg Chaser

4,954 posts

182 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
I'd say most MOT testers would have the common sense to realise the water will be frozen, and pass it.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to correct me... smile

mcford

819 posts

189 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
The tester isn't there to diagnose faults with the car, simply to test the item and note whether it works or not. On some cars, using the washer jets when frozen could blow the fuse, so thawing them out still won't make them work.

Probably the best that the tester can do is to leave the washer check until the end of the test, when hopefully they may have thawed out enough show that they are capable of working.

The vehicle presenter could help themselves by using some hot water in the washer bottle prior to the test. As far as I know there is no special dispensation and to pass an item as working when it is clear it is not is risking a disciplinary from VOSA.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

219 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Get them defrosted.

They are doing a government test, common sense and discretion have no place in anything to do with the government.

Athlon

5,458 posts

221 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
mcford said:
The tester isn't there to diagnose faults with the car, simply to test the item and note whether it works or not. On some cars, using the washer jets when frozen could blow the fuse, so thawing them out still won't make them work.

Probably the best that the tester can do is to leave the washer check until the end of the test, when hopefully they may have thawed out enough show that they are capable of working.

The vehicle presenter could help themselves by using some hot water in the washer bottle prior to the test. As far as I know there is no special dispensation and to pass an item as working when it is clear it is not is risking a disciplinary from VOSA.
If they do not work we cannot pass them frown the motor may be no good or the pipes may have popped of the jets, we see a lot of this during cold spells.

I always try them and re-try at the end of test, most will come to life with the heat soak.



Vipers

33,276 posts

243 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Why stop being a tight git biggrin and buy some screen with antifreeze in, I use stuff from Halfords, all year round, never freeze up.




smile

Matt_N

8,948 posts

217 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
I had my MoT last week and was worried about this, I even set an alarm on my phone to prompt me to check the washers.

Luckily it wasn't as cold as it had been the night before so they weren't frozen, but I had run the fluid down a bit and was all ready to go out with some warm water to top it up and hopefully thaw it out.

Shame I had to get the rear brake lines replaced!

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

261 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Cars are supposed to have working windscreen washers so that drivers can clear the screen of salt and crud when driving in winter, whatever the temperature. So there's no "common sense" involved here, other than the common sense to get the washers working.

If you can get the system thawed out with a fan-heater one possibility is to sling a bottle of methylated spirit (or vodka) into the washer reservoir to mix with the existing water in there and add some effective anti-freeze.

Vipers

33,276 posts

243 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Do people really just use water in the winter in the windscreen washer bottles?




smile

sleep envy

62,260 posts

264 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
No, I have water with a squeeze of washing up liquid in my washer tank wink

John D.

19,301 posts

224 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Have a word before you turn up. See if they will accept a bottle of water in the car as alternative screen wash facility. I had a car passed this year with non-working jets (switch in stalk had broke) with this method. Friendly MOT man had suggested it. They do have some room to use discretion.

Might be worth making it a bottle of pucker screen wash with anti-freeze properties and a brush given the current weather wink

John D.

19,301 posts

224 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Vipers said:
Why stop being a tight git biggrin and buy some screen with antifreeze in, I use stuff from Halfords, all year round, never freeze up.




smile
Did not work in mine early this year when we saw -5 nono It turned to slush in bottle and froze solid in jets.

Tescos pink -9 rated stuff works so far.

Vipers

33,276 posts

243 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
John D. said:
Vipers said:
Why stop being a tight git biggrin and buy some screen with antifreeze in, I use stuff from Halfords, all year round, never freeze up.




smile
Did not work in mine early this year when we saw -5 nono It turned to slush in bottle and froze solid in jets.

Tescos pink -9 rated stuff works so far.
Have to have a shufty in Tesco's, thanks for that. Better be prepared.




smile

pacman1

7,323 posts

208 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
'shufty'. Now that's a word I heven't heard in a while.

MondeoMan1981

2,444 posts

198 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
If anyone wants a screenwash recommendation, Halfrauds Double Concentrate is the way to go, does down to -23 on the label and has worked as a 50% mix down to -18 with no problems.

I just dropped my car in for its MOT earlier, washers were working and I tried to get enough snow off the underside as possible, however a nice slushy road for the 100m outside the test centre didnt help.

Vipers

33,276 posts

243 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
pacman1 said:
'shufty'. Now that's a word I heven't heard in a while.
Showing my age.



smile

anonymous-user

69 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Egg Chaser said:
I'd say most MOT testers would have the common sense to realise the water will be frozen, and pass it.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to correct me... smile
Nope. Mine failed 2 years ago because of this.

pacman1

7,323 posts

208 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
Vipers said:
pacman1 said:
'shufty'. Now that's a word I heven't heard in a while.
Showing my age.



smile
Yeah, and showing mine for noticing it!

Mr E

22,494 posts

274 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
MondeoMan1981 said:
If anyone wants a screenwash recommendation, Halfrauds Double Concentrate is the way to go, does down to -23 on the label and has worked as a 50% mix down to -18 with no problems.

I just dropped my car in for its MOT earlier, washers were working and I tried to get enough snow off the underside as possible, however a nice slushy road for the 100m outside the test centre didnt help.
I'm running it as a 50/50 mix and it was frozen solid for a good hour on Sunday.

PHmember

2,487 posts

186 months

Monday 20th December 2010
quotequote all
50/50 mix of water & paint stripper, increase the paint stripper if it gets really cold.

Job's a carrot.