Modifeid Porsche's
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There are certain 'required' modifications that are expected by anyine who has done their research: replace Munroe shocks and fit HID headlights for the 993, to name two. However, once you get into the realms of exhaust mods, carbon interior etc I think you can narrow your field of appeal once you come to sell.
Rocco1 said:
How many of you guys have modified your Porsche's? It seems to be a crime if you sell your car and it has been modifeid,yet most of the members seem to have there cars modified.I don't mean silly bodykits more towards handling inc wheels and exhaust.
I have, dont want to be in the position where I sell the car thoughIve done engine, suspension, seats. Left the exterior std, apart from chainging the colour of the std twist wheels, as I hate cleaning silver wheels.
Modding Pork is like Marmite...
Mr F
Rocco1 said:
How many of you guys have modified your Porsche's? It seems to be a crime if you sell your car and it has been modifeid,yet most of the members seem to have there cars modified.I don't mean silly bodykits more towards handling inc wheels and exhaust.
its a nonsense IMHO as long as the mods are an improvement, why some people see it as sacrilege is beyond me, anyway, as I've kept the bits that have been improved on, I could always revert back to standard if needed and sell the parts separately - not that I want to sell...like many on here I don't buy cars and worry about the resale value but buy for enjoyment, if it depreciates/devalues - so what! - I've had a grin!modification is like drugs ;-)
I think it depends entirely. I am not a big fan and really would not buy a car that does not look stock, nor would I buy something which has had engine mods. But some wheels can look good, exhausts are fine... I guess as long as it does not look like a drug dealer owns it and as long as I am not worried that the previous owner has been racing it, then I would be happy.
stewart rix said:
There are certain 'required' modifications that are expected by anyine who has done their research: replace Munroe shocks and fit HID headlights for the 993, to name two. However, once you get into the realms of exhaust mods, carbon interior etc I think you can narrow your field of appeal once you come to sell.
HIDs are 'required'?I doubt they're anywhere near anyones must haves when looking for a 993
Totally depends on the type of Porsche, if its something readily available, common shall we say - I think it matters less.
If its something rare, seen as hard to get, and something that someone would want as mint as possible, then factory standard is the way to go.
Also - some things are more enhancements than modifications
If its something rare, seen as hard to get, and something that someone would want as mint as possible, then factory standard is the way to go.
Also - some things are more enhancements than modifications
I straddle both camps (as it were). I love completely stock cars. My 996RS is very unlikely to be modded by me (although never say never).
One problem is that often, mods come at a price (and I don't mean the cost). Many aftermarket bits and changes have a downside. They probably achieve what was set out, but they can well be compromised in some way. At the extreme, much aftermarket stuff is complete crap. So you see someone's (modded) pride and joy and wince at what's been done. As I say, that's just one end of the spectrum.
So to the other camp. I am doing an 89 G50 911 which is massively modded to be an extreme road-rocket. Stripped, caged, race seats, suspension, brakes, 3.8 engine on Jenveys. I really hope it turns out to be what I wanted and that I don't prefer a standard G50 3.2
Bert
One problem is that often, mods come at a price (and I don't mean the cost). Many aftermarket bits and changes have a downside. They probably achieve what was set out, but they can well be compromised in some way. At the extreme, much aftermarket stuff is complete crap. So you see someone's (modded) pride and joy and wince at what's been done. As I say, that's just one end of the spectrum.
So to the other camp. I am doing an 89 G50 911 which is massively modded to be an extreme road-rocket. Stripped, caged, race seats, suspension, brakes, 3.8 engine on Jenveys. I really hope it turns out to be what I wanted and that I don't prefer a standard G50 3.2
Bert
I would go with that..
I think there is also a perception that if someone modifies their car to make it faster/handle better - then they drive in a particular way.
Reality is that there is no correlation what so ever, I have modified my cars before - and those that know me know that I drive like Miss Daisy!
I think there is also a perception that if someone modifies their car to make it faster/handle better - then they drive in a particular way.
Reality is that there is no correlation what so ever, I have modified my cars before - and those that know me know that I drive like Miss Daisy!
Rocco1 said:
How many of you guys have modified your Porsche's? It seems to be a crime if you sell your car and it has been modifeid,yet most of the members seem to have there cars modified.I don't mean silly bodykits more towards handling inc wheels and exhaust.
I don't think anyone believes it is a crime; however, they may question what you asking for a car if the modifications detract from the originality. If you have priced the car using the inflated 'it is collectable' justification, it seems short-sighted to complain when someone knocks your car for not being OEM spec. A little like your red 964 with the poor quality heat exchangers. This may not have been an issue to you but it would certainly be noted during a PPI inspection and questioned because it effects the originality.
Edited by Lightningman on Wednesday 22 December 12:38
Lightningman said:
Rocco1 said:
How many of you guys have modified your Porsche's? It seems to be a crime if you sell your car and it has been modifeid,yet most of the members seem to have there cars modified.I don't mean silly bodykits more towards handling inc wheels and exhaust.
I don't think anyone believes it is a crime; however, they may question what you asking for a car if the modifications detract from the originality. If you have priced the car using the inflated 'it is collectable' justification, it seems short-sighted to complain when someone knocks your car for not being OEM spec. A little like your red 964 with the poor quality heat exchangers. This may not have been an issue to you but it would certainly be noted during a PPI inspection and questioned because it effects the originality.
[footnote]Edited by Lightningman on Wednesday 22 Dece e
mber 12:38[/footnote]
I have an aftermarket sports exhaust on mine- but that was fitted by the previous owner (nice one!)
My next Porsche will hopefully be a 997tt; I would be very tempted to change the rear lights and bumper to the gen2 style- I think it looks much better than the earlier 997's. I appreciate this is not everyone's cup of tea though! I'd also change the standard polished alloys (ugly) to GT2s or HREs.
Each to their own I suppose; subtly modified cars will always attract a good number of potential buyers; and there will always be someone interested in buying something with power mods (as these are expensive of course).
I think you'll lose interest from buyers when you put on a chav tat body kit or take away originality from a rarer model, or try to pass off your base spec C2 as a GT3 for example. I'm very glad there are not too many OTT Halfords specials in the Porsche world!
My next Porsche will hopefully be a 997tt; I would be very tempted to change the rear lights and bumper to the gen2 style- I think it looks much better than the earlier 997's. I appreciate this is not everyone's cup of tea though! I'd also change the standard polished alloys (ugly) to GT2s or HREs.
Each to their own I suppose; subtly modified cars will always attract a good number of potential buyers; and there will always be someone interested in buying something with power mods (as these are expensive of course).
I think you'll lose interest from buyers when you put on a chav tat body kit or take away originality from a rarer model, or try to pass off your base spec C2 as a GT3 for example. I'm very glad there are not too many OTT Halfords specials in the Porsche world!
Agree with what was said above in that there are some generally accepted improvments to the aid-cooled cars which make a big different if you are planning on actually using it.
Also agree that the highest price for a rare car will always be commanded by originality unless of course its got racing heritage or something like that.
As far as the whole mods is a crime argument, I`m the kind of guy that looks at something like the singer 911 and appreciates the imporvements over the stock 911 and if i had an old 911 i`d look to steal some of their ideas, however there are others out there that will prefer a more original car.
Dont really know if I`ve made any sense but i think you get the gist of what i`m trnig to say.
Also agree that the highest price for a rare car will always be commanded by originality unless of course its got racing heritage or something like that.
As far as the whole mods is a crime argument, I`m the kind of guy that looks at something like the singer 911 and appreciates the imporvements over the stock 911 and if i had an old 911 i`d look to steal some of their ideas, however there are others out there that will prefer a more original car.
Dont really know if I`ve made any sense but i think you get the gist of what i`m trnig to say.
Edited by turbo964 on Wednesday 22 December 17:48
Personally I think it's all about improving the drive and enjoyment you get from a car.
If the technology is there to improve it for the better then why not embrace it!
I personally prefer my car to look standard but will look at tastefull mods.
Look at what Eagle did to the E-Type. Mate has a DB5 with a period look radio which is actually a DAB and CD.
Often doing it well can £££ and as long as you can show receipts and reasoning for mod e.g. it's the recognised upgrade then I think you're fairly safe.
If the technology is there to improve it for the better then why not embrace it!
I personally prefer my car to look standard but will look at tastefull mods.
Look at what Eagle did to the E-Type. Mate has a DB5 with a period look radio which is actually a DAB and CD.
Often doing it well can £££ and as long as you can show receipts and reasoning for mod e.g. it's the recognised upgrade then I think you're fairly safe.
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