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runner911

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599 posts

245 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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Had my 2007 V8 Vantage serviced today at a main dealer.
The passenger door window was not dropping far enough when opened , occasionally fouling the chrome trim.
Re-setting the windows as per the handbook failed to rectify the fault and I pointed this out to the Service Manager prior to the commencement of the service.
The car is subject of an extended warranty which does not expire until the end of next month.
When I collected the car I was told by a technician that the problem was one of adjustment but that he had not carried this out as the warranty does not cover "adjustments" only replacement of faulty parts etc..
I pointed out that the problem had not manifested itself until he personally had fitted a replacement door catch on the passenger door pillar some months earlier as the original had rusted badly.
This cut no ice. The technician continued that it would cost a furthur hours labour to rectify the fault.
Does anyone else find this disappointing and somewhat bizarre ?
To conclude the only reason I took the car to the main dealer was because of the warranty .
Rick at DMS will certainly have my custom next year even though it's a fair old trek from Plymouth to Derby !

Edited by runner911 on Wednesday 5th January 23:09

UH-Matt

2,172 posts

242 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Very poor of them not to do that.

GTDB7

958 posts

170 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Agreed!

I find that there are many stories like this in the Aston world.

For such a high end brand like this some of the customer service really does stink!

So far I have done all my own service work.. it's very easy to carry out the work and although I have not been on any Aston training courses.. I feel somehow more at ease knowing I have done everything myself and won't suffer from any "service drone" problems.
As I am not working to any clock I can take far longer checking everything is in order.

If they worked on the door and created a further fault.. which I see this as,, even though the rectification is a mere adjustment.. the fault is real and was created by them.. they should fix it..

Besides.. big deal, one hour... if I were in his place I'd have offered my own free time out of hours to fix such a simple yet annoying fault..

It's called customer relations!

Very poor choice on the dealerships part.

Good Soil (Pete)

543 posts

263 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Personally I would create merry hell in the dealership (ideally on a busy day!) :-) if they created the fault then they should fix it END OF STORY!

WantanewV12V

580 posts

204 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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If you pointed it out to them as soon as it occurred some months ago after they completed the previous work I would have thought that you had an undeniable case for them to rectify. If you left it until the service I would think it is less clear. However I am surprised that fixing something mechanical that is not working properly would have been covered by a warranty - it is not a wear and tear item. I would escalate to the dealer management team.

jonamv8

3,165 posts

168 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Main dealer I use would do this FOC no problem. Ridiculous. I'd kick up a fuss

CygnetTech

2 posts

161 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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This really should be carried out FOC as it’s a very simple fix just to take the door panel off and carry out a quick adjustment. Not what I would consider good practice. I'm sure a lot of main dealers would to the courteous gesture of fixing it FOC!

waitesy

4 posts

167 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Bearing this in mind, has anyone experienced having an Indy undertake a service, finding a problem, and then asking the main dealer to rectify under warranty?
Whats the main dealers stance on such practices?

Cheers
Steve

andyxxx

1,182 posts

229 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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waitesy said:
Bearing this in mind, has anyone experienced having an Indy undertake a service, finding a problem, and then asking the main dealer to rectify under warranty?
Whats the main dealers stance on such practices?

Cheers
Steve
My guess is that because of the block exemption law the Main dealer would have no choice but to honour warranty claims – even if a indi has looked at your car (as long as the indi complies with said law and uses genuine parts or parts at least as good.)

CraigVmax

12,248 posts

284 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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you should try porsche main dealers, they make Aston look good.

cosicave

686 posts

162 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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runner911 said:
Had my 2007 V8 Vantage serviced today at a main dealer.
The passenger door window was not dropping far enough when opened , occasionally fouling the chrome trim.
Re-setting the windows as per the handbook failed to rectify the fault and I pointed this out to the Service Manager prior to the commencement of the service.
The car is subject of an extended warranty which does not expire until the end of next month.
When I collected the car I was told by a technician that the problem was one of adjustment but that he had not carried this out as the warranty does not cover "adjustments" only replacement of faulty parts etc..
I pointed out that the problem had not manifested itself until he personally had fitted a replacement door catch on the passenger door pillar some months earlier as the original had rusted badly.
This cut no ice. The technician continued that it would cost a furthur hours labour to rectify the fault.
Does anyone else find this disappointing and somewhat bizarre ?
To conclude the only reason I took the car to the main dealer was because of the warranty .
Rick at DMS will certainly have my custom next year even though it's a fair old trek from Plymouth to Derby !
This is nothing short of disgraceful but I am very pleased to see that you intend to take your custom elsewhere.

simonpieman

364 posts

188 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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runner911 said:
Had my 2007 V8 Vantage serviced today at a main dealer.
The passenger door window was not dropping far enough when opened , occasionally fouling the chrome trim.
Re-setting the windows as per the handbook failed to rectify the fault and I pointed this out to the Service Manager prior to the commencement of the service.

Edited by runner911 on Wednesday 5th January 23:09
My DB9 has started doing this, bizarrely after having had it serviced at a main dealer. I'll call them tomorrow, but I feel a trip to DMS coming on.

andyxxx

1,182 posts

229 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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simonpieman said:
runner911 said:
Had my 2007 V8 Vantage serviced today at a main dealer.
The passenger door window was not dropping far enough when opened , occasionally fouling the chrome trim.
Re-setting the windows as per the handbook failed to rectify the fault and I pointed this out to the Service Manager prior to the commencement of the service.

Edited by runner911 on Wednesday 5th January 23:09
My DB9 has started doing this, bizarrely after having had it serviced at a main dealer. I'll call them tomorrow, but I feel a trip to DMS coming on.
My car has done it three times. AM need to reset it using a computer. It happens to my car after the battery goes flat. This time, not only will it not drop to break the air seal, it won't go up or down at all (only on the passenger window) I spoke to AM again earlier today. They told me AM assist (AA) can reset it - so i phoned them and they are calling tomw morning.

Interestingly (and annoyingly), when the battery went flat this latest time, the mirrors folding in when parked option has also stopped working - again.

Really not good enough.

simonpieman

364 posts

188 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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Thanks for the info Andy.

cosicave

686 posts

162 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Hmm. One wonders whether they've reverted to Lucas electrics. - Or have they started making computers?

This is clearly a problem with a very likely source. I wonder if they will soon be adding a 'reset' button as an optional extra?…

andyxxx

1,182 posts

229 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Aston Martin Assist (AA)were indeed able to reset the window - Interestingly, this time they did not do it by using a computer, but by removing/replacing a couple of fuses under the passenger footwell.

They were not able to reset the folding wing mirrors stating it is an AM only task.

rick-derby-

1,105 posts

189 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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andyxxx said:
Aston Martin Assist (AA)were indeed able to reset the window - Interestingly, this time they did not do it by using a computer, but by removing/replacing a couple of fuses under the passenger footwell.

They were not able to reset the folding wing mirrors stating it is an AM only task.
What they have done is remove fuse 82 and fuse 83 which supply power to the door modules and then reinserted, this will reboot them, if the fault reappears the modules may require re flashing, if you are visiting your dealer to get the auto powerfold option enabled i would ask them to make sure the door modules have the latest software

simonpieman

364 posts

188 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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[quote=andyxxx]Aston Martin Assist (AA)were indeed able to reset the window - Interestingly, this time they did not do it by using a computer, but by removing/replacing a couple of fuses under the passenger footwell.

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My AM dealer told me AM assist cannot do the window reset and that they would need to take a look at it. So off it goes again, back to the dealer on Thursday.

spiralp

143 posts

255 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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I had exactly the same problem today, and removing and refitting fuses 82 and 83 (followed by resetting each window) worked perfectly.

Thanks Rick.

simonpieman

364 posts

188 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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simonpieman said:
andyxxx said:
Aston Martin Assist (AA)were indeed able to reset the window - Interestingly, this time they did not do it by using a computer, but by removing/replacing a couple of fuses under the passenger footwell.

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My AM dealer told me AM assist cannot do the window reset and that they would need to take a look at it. So off it goes again, back to the dealer on Thursday.
Car just been dropped off by dealer. "All adjusted and sorted". So I pointed out that the passenger window is still fouling the chrome. Extraordinary.