GB: Academy Tempest V : Yertis

[Yertis]

dr_gn said:

Yertis said:

Only progress today is to order up a new hose for the Aerograph, but without that the project is at a standstill.

Aerograph?

Beautiful thing...



Found a place near Brighton for the hose, they're not as easy to get as you might expect.

[dr_gn]

Yertis said:

dr_gn said:

Yertis said:

Only progress today is to order up a new hose for the Aerograph, but without that the project is at a standstill.

Aerograph?

Beautiful thing...



Found a place near Brighton for the hose, they're not as easy to get as you might expect.

Here's mine:



I had it upgraded to the latest spec. of air valve recently, and that has made a big difference. You can still buy them refurbished / upgraded from here:

http://www.restorationsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/Airb...

They seem to be the DeVilbiss/Aerograph specalists these days.

[Yertis]

That's a very useful looking site, thanks for that! I just missed a Sprite on Gumtree, mine runs out far to quickly.

[dr_gn]

Yertis said:

That's a very useful looking site, thanks for that! I just missed a Sprite on Gumtree, mine runs out far to quickly.

They re-machined the body of mine to fit the new valve - made a great job of it, and I can now use easily available spares rather than making my own bits that never really worked too well.

ETA, they might even take yours in p-ex if they sell refurbs ?

Edited by dr_gn on Friday 21st January 12:46

[Yertis]

Thanks for that weblink dr, I've got some spare parts whizzing through to me now.

My xtracrylix have turned up from Hannants (great service) together with a decal set which I'm slightly perturbed to see dates from a very long time ago (it says 1988 and looks it). The carrier film looks to be all one big bit, for want of a better expression. Any good tips for cutting out the roundels, other than the Olfa compass-cutter?

[Eric Mc]

Good quality Boots nail scissors.

Who made the decals?

[Yertis]

Altmark I think. It's the set mentioned on Perdu's thread.

Also Eric, on the Xtracrylix colours it says dilute with water, but I infer from you and others that the thinners is better. Is that the case?

[Eric Mc]

Yertis said:

Altmark I think. It's the set mentioned on Perdu's thread.

Also Eric, on the Xtracrylix colours it says dilute with water, but I infer from you and others that the thinners is better. Is that the case?

I've only ever used their thinner so can't really comment on how well they work with water.

I've heard that Isopropyl Alcohol is a good alternative to bespoke thinners - but, yet again, I've no experience of using it.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 27th January 15:12

[perdu]

Almark decals always did use a single layer varnish coating

Is this the Mac Kennaugh set?

1988 is after I left the Bham IPMS so I was out of things for all this time

(TBH I am not sure whether Mac is still with us or not)

Almarks can be cut very close to the ink so you don't get a decal film showing and at the time were cutting edge, before the use of covering and masking varnishes came along in strength. (We had them and stuff like Microsol, but they were not widely used then)

The only better decals/transfers were Modeldecals from Modeltoys in Portsmouth back then in my 'umble opinion

[Eric Mc]

Mac passed away a long time ago. I remember his obituary in Scale Aircraft Modelling - must have been the late 80s or early 90s.

Dick Ward (proprietor of Modeldecals) is a regular attendee at Farnborough IPMS. Hannants still stock some of the range - indeed, I think they have kept some of the sheets in production.

[Meoricin]

Eric Mc said:

I've only ever used their thinner so can't really comment on how well they work with water.

I've heard that Isopropyl Alcohol is a good alternative to bespoke thinners - but, yet again, I've no experience of using it.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 27th January 15:12

If it helps, I switched from using water to using Isopropyl when airbrushing acrylics (in this case it was citadel paints, so designed to thin with water), and found it was far more reliable in terms of consistency when painting.

However, that was with paints which are usually always thinned with water - I don't think citadel even offer a thinner for them. Whether results would be different with other water-based acrylics or not, I don't know.

[Yertis]

perdu said:

(We had them and stuff like Microsol, but they were not widely used then)

I first discovered them in a Scale Models one-off special called "Scale Colour", I think published in around 1977. (It did go on alot about "scale colour" but I never bothered with that.

[Eric Mc]

Still have that somewhere.

I read that Reg Moulton, the founder of Scale Models (and the Argus publishing empire) died a few weeks ago.

[dr_gn]

Meoricin said:

Eric Mc said:

I've only ever used their thinner so can't really comment on how well they work with water.

I've heard that Isopropyl Alcohol is a good alternative to bespoke thinners - but, yet again, I've no experience of using it.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 27th January 15:12

If it helps, I switched from using water to using Isopropyl when airbrushing acrylics (in this case it was citadel paints, so designed to thin with water), and found it was far more reliable in terms of consistency when painting.

However, that was with paints which are usually always thinned with water - I don't think citadel even offer a thinner for them. Whether results would be different with other water-based acrylics or not, I don't know.

IPA turns Vallejo Air acrylic to mush. It takes ages to remove the mush from the airbrush. FWIWW, I bought a large bottle of Vallejo thinners.

[perdu]

Yertis said:

I first discovered them in a Scale Models one-off special called "Scale Colour", I think published in around 1977. (It did go on alot about "scale colour" but I never bothered with that.

I had that one-off too.

Gave it away with practically every modelling mag I ever bought, including all those Scale Aircraft Modeling mags from the first newspaper ones to the later semiglossies. Every one had a scale drawing of an aircraft type in the middle, a true innovation back then. The only one I have left of Alan Hall's marvellous magazine is the BAC Jet Provost issue with a report of the IPMS Nationals of '83.

No prizes for a correct guess why

[Yertis]

perdu said:

I had that one-off too.

Gave it away with practically every modelling mag I ever bought, including all those Scale Aircraft Modeling mags from the first newspaper ones to the later semiglossies. Every one had a scale drawing of an aircraft type in the middle, a true innovation back then. The only one I have left of Alan Hall's marvellous magazine is the BAC Jet Provost issue with a report of the IPMS Nationals of '83.

No prizes for a correct guess why

Mine (including, likewise, Issue 1 of SAM onwards) were uncermoniously dumped together with about 100 Humbrol tinlets, MicroSol/Set, a Humbrol "airbrush", a couple of dozen unfinished kits (including three Hasegawa F14s and associated MicroScale transfers ), my collection of Quattro brochures...

I just dumped the lot one day.

Luckily, my wife bought me the Tempest, but only on condition that I "finish the bloody thing".

[perdu]

Funny really

NOT

I was doing a brakedown for a chap who lived about two miles away from me when we got chatting (as ye do when waiting for something to happen, might have been charging his battery or summat) and he said he'd just come back to modelling since giving up when he discovered crumpet as a youth.

Talking I found out he was searching for research material and as I'd been looking to clear out boxes of mags that there was no chance of me [b]ever[/b ] needing again...

Ho hum

never mind huh

goes to show

never say never

[Yertis]

The airbrush lives!

Now to get to grips with xtracrylics...

[Yertis]

Just to show some activity, bit of a juggling act at the moment, re-decorating hall, fixing Quattro, busy at work.

I'm glad I didn't splash out on one of the interior kits, I was sorely tempted. Seem a PITA and can't be seen properly anyway. I've settled for using the parts in the kit, and thinning them down to more realistic thicknesses with a file, see the pilot's armour plate, and I've also done it on the sides of the seat. I'll put the quilting in once I've airbrushed and used 'weathering powder' to bring out the details. I've two teenage daughters, and access to an unlimited palette of such powders.





I've found that by judicious reduction of the cockpit floor width it can be made to force the lower sides of the fuselage apart so that they become a perfect fit with the wings. You can't see that in these photos, it's all dry fit at the mo.

My wife gave me a Revell Spitfire for Christmas about five years ago, so this is the opportunity I need to build it properly. I'm building it as a very tired Mark V, to contrast what will be a virtually new Tempest. Although nicely moulded in the main, as Eric mentioned the other day the contours around the rear wing root underneath are poorly represented on this kit, the old Airfix Mark V is much better in this regard and also has a better canopy. I've a pre-built Mark V on my desk here (used as reference for a D-Day anniversary logo a few years ago) so I shall pinch bits from that.

Sorry about crap-ness of photos.

[perdu]

Doesn't it feel gooooood to get that start made?

Having seen the other's concerns about Extra/Super/magical detail kits has resealed my thinking about these things

If you can't see it what is wrong with ading just a tad of extra that works easily (what I've been doing with Typhoon)

I now have to make the pilots armour plate (nuffink like it in Frog's world) and other minor details

I don't blame you lookin for the best available canopy either, on the Spit.

I will be making the canopy for mine separately rather than looking through a glass darkly

Havent done owt just yet, I've been recovering from very serious food poisoning and simply looking in here has been beyond me since Friday night

Might be making a blown canopy for the tiffie by pull moulding, it's very easy and should be in every modeller's repertoire.

No vac forming machinery just the kit canopy full of Milliput and the heat from a candle.

ps

definite plus for sorting the Quatro