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out of interest, what is the legality of not having a working car horn, certainly makes for interesting driving when cars try to merge with your space, all I found was that it was not recommended and might fail an mot test that the company car never gets put forward for when I am using it
Scraggles said:
not need an mot, would like the legal stuff to quote in case someone "insists" I use the car with no horn, I would prefer not to, but the comment was it's only a few days until next friday, what does it really matter if you have no horn ?
Then that person would potentially be guilty of "causing or permitting" an unroadworthy vehicle. Might be worth mentioning to them.seems the person who wanted me to drive has seen sense and if I need a hire car past the first day they will organise it 
if mods want to lock the post, feel free to do so, just hope the garage driver who will collect the car does not need to use it himself on the drive back as doubt they will transport it
if mods want to lock the post, feel free to do so, just hope the garage driver who will collect the car does not need to use it himself on the drive back as doubt they will transport it
And here you have it....MOT testers Manual:
Reason for rejection Audible Warning Device
Pre 1906 vehicles Vehicles certified by the London Science Museum as being designed before 1 January 1905 and constructed before 31 December 1905 can have a gong, bell or siren audible warning.
Testing:
1. Operate the horn control and note the volume and character of the sound emmited.
Failure
a. the horn control missing, insecure or not readily accessible to the driver Note: Inform the driver if the horn is insecure.
b. the horn does not function
c. the sound emmited by the horn is not loud enough to be heard by another roaduser
d. a gong, bell, siren or two or more tone horn fitted
Note: When operated, a two or more tone horn automatically produces a sound which alternates at regular intervals between fixed notes
A vehicle is allowed to be fitted with a bell, gong or siren, but not two-tone, only as part of an anti-theft device.
e. for a vehicle first used on or after 1 August 1973, a sound emmited by the horn is- not a constant note- not continuous or uniform- harsh or grating
dvd
Reason for rejection Audible Warning Device
Pre 1906 vehicles Vehicles certified by the London Science Museum as being designed before 1 January 1905 and constructed before 31 December 1905 can have a gong, bell or siren audible warning.
Testing:
1. Operate the horn control and note the volume and character of the sound emmited.
Failure
a. the horn control missing, insecure or not readily accessible to the driver Note: Inform the driver if the horn is insecure.
b. the horn does not function
c. the sound emmited by the horn is not loud enough to be heard by another roaduser
d. a gong, bell, siren or two or more tone horn fitted
Note: When operated, a two or more tone horn automatically produces a sound which alternates at regular intervals between fixed notes
A vehicle is allowed to be fitted with a bell, gong or siren, but not two-tone, only as part of an anti-theft device.
e. for a vehicle first used on or after 1 August 1973, a sound emmited by the horn is- not a constant note- not continuous or uniform- harsh or grating
dvd
Dwight VanDriver said:
And here you have it....MOT testers Manual:
Reason for rejection Audible Warning Device
Pre 1906 vehicles Vehicles certified by the London Science Museum as being designed before 1 January 1905 and constructed before 31 December 1905 can have a gong, bell or siren audible warning.
Testing:
1. Operate the horn control and note the volume and character of the sound emmited.
Failure
a. the horn control missing, insecure or not readily accessible to the driver Note: Inform the driver if the horn is insecure.
b. the horn does not function
c. the sound emmited by the horn is not loud enough to be heard by another roaduser
d. a gong, bell, siren or two or more tone horn fitted
Note: When operated, a two or more tone horn automatically produces a sound which alternates at regular intervals between fixed notes
A vehicle is allowed to be fitted with a bell, gong or siren, but not two-tone, only as part of an anti-theft device.
e. for a vehicle first used on or after 1 August 1973, a sound emmited by the horn is- not a constant note- not continuous or uniform- harsh or grating
dvd
BUT an MOT fail isn't the same as a car being illegal to drive on the road. Reason for rejection Audible Warning Device
Pre 1906 vehicles Vehicles certified by the London Science Museum as being designed before 1 January 1905 and constructed before 31 December 1905 can have a gong, bell or siren audible warning.
Testing:
1. Operate the horn control and note the volume and character of the sound emmited.
Failure
a. the horn control missing, insecure or not readily accessible to the driver Note: Inform the driver if the horn is insecure.
b. the horn does not function
c. the sound emmited by the horn is not loud enough to be heard by another roaduser
d. a gong, bell, siren or two or more tone horn fitted
Note: When operated, a two or more tone horn automatically produces a sound which alternates at regular intervals between fixed notes
A vehicle is allowed to be fitted with a bell, gong or siren, but not two-tone, only as part of an anti-theft device.
e. for a vehicle first used on or after 1 August 1973, a sound emmited by the horn is- not a constant note- not continuous or uniform- harsh or grating
dvd
was merely interested after driving home from the garage if the boss's idea of leaving it a week would get me in trouble with the police, let alone what would happen if some kid ran out in front of me and had no way to warn them....
not had to do an mot for the past 10 years as the cc is changed every 3 years
not had to do an mot for the past 10 years as the cc is changed every 3 years
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