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hora

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18,423 posts

95 months

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So some are fiddly aren't they but the need to remove the cars wheel AND wheel arch liner to change the drivers side bulb?

What the fk! rofl

HellDiver

5,708 posts

66 months

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Mk5 Astra with 17" or bigger wheels needs the front wheels on either side to be removed to change any of the front bulbs. KA sounds simple in comparison.

McSam

5,451 posts

59 months

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Presuming we're talking about a Mk1 Ka, neither of these need wheels taking off..

With the Ka, a big flathead screwdriver is helpful because it lets you pin the plastic cover back out of the way, but whatever you do don't take it off completely. This gives you enough room, even on the more space-hungry later engines, to get to the dipped beam fine. The main beam is harder and you could spend five minutes or so fiddling to get the plastic cover back on, as you've no choice but to remove it, thankfully very rare that they go.

Astras, lock the wheels right over to the opposite side to the bulb you're changing - ie, full left lock to get to the driver's side - pop and use the little hatch you're given in the arch lining to reach through. Easier than Meganes, that's for sure, as the clips are a lot less swivel-eyed than the ones Renault use, though the bigger the wheels the more ballache you'll have.

The most awkward one I've seen recently is the current Fiesta's dipped beam, you get maybe half an inch of space between the cover and the bulkhead.. Still doable in a couple of minutes, but on first sight ridiculous!

ETA - If you haven't done loads of bulbs before, mind, a Ka does look like a right mission! hehe

Edited by McSam on Thursday 27th January 09:44

klimakool

592 posts

59 months

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astra or ka, never taken a whell off to change a bulb, its a roadside maintenence repair, and a DIY one at that. looks like you've over thought it.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

66 months

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McSam said:
Astras, lock the wheels right over to the opposite side to the bulb you're changing - ie, full left lock to get to the driver's side - pop and use the little hatch you're given in the arch lining to reach through.
Didn't work on my Sporthatch. Standard 17" Design spec wheels. The hatch wouldn't open past the tyres.
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OMNIO

1,119 posts

50 months

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Mondeo is a pain as well. Had to take off the Grille, a couple of bits inside the engine bay and remove the headlight unit to replace main beam....

fair enough it was about a 10 minute job, but the elderly or the inept would struggle. Probably why you see so many cars going around with 1 healight out or headlights being substituted with fog lights.

NiceCupOfTea

22,876 posts

135 months

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Isn't it the Megane where it's a dealer job to change the bulbs? Bumper off?

Madness. How do these things get type approved? No wonder half the cars on the road have a headlamp out! Should be easy for Joe Public to change on a dark petrol forecourt in the rain in 2 mins IMHO.

McSam

5,451 posts

59 months

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HellDiver said:
McSam said:
Astras, lock the wheels right over to the opposite side to the bulb you're changing - ie, full left lock to get to the driver's side - pop and use the little hatch you're given in the arch lining to reach through.
Didn't work on my Sporthatch. Standard 17" Design spec wheels. The hatch wouldn't open past the tyres.
You can pop it off with a screwdriver rather than swinging it open, though, which means you need much less space. Obviously I'm working from memory here, but I've never not been able to do an Astra of this age, and plenty have had 17s, though I don't think I've done any 18s.

As for the Mk3 Mondeo, I thought that was a wonderful design! Two twist-clips to get the grille off, then two clips that you simply pull upwards, and the headlight's free and you have the easiest fit possible. So long as you know what to look for, two minutes out and maybe as long back in. I'm not sure whether the manual gives you instruction or not, but to most it's a nice solution.

The very best in terms of an elegant solution are Volvo S/V40s (at least, I think it's the 40s) - one clip and the whole unit swings out and off the car biggrin

ETA - Meganes are similar to the Astras, never need the bumper off but do need you to stick your arm up to the elbow through the wheelarch access hatch to fiddle blind with dodgy bulb clips. Not ideal for Joe Public, that one, but technically achieveable at the roadside

Edited by McSam on Thursday 27th January 10:05

boredofmyoldname

22,654 posts

83 months

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If anyone wants to pop round and see if he is wrong I have some new bulbs and a ford ka at home.

A lex

11,884 posts

117 months

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Ka is definitely doable without taking the wheel off. Parents have had one for a run-around since 2000 and my dear old Dad can do a Ka bulb in about 10mins now, without removing anything other than skin smile


TonyHetherington

31,816 posts

134 months

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Hope you never have to change a bulb on an early S2 Elise hehe

wheel arch liner off, unbolt entire headlight cluster from behind, then bring forward and detach.

Toyless

10,842 posts

105 months

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£6 to let Halfords do it, I hate the job.

McSam

5,451 posts

59 months

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Toyless said:
£6 to let Halfords do it, I hate the job.
How'd you think I know so much about it? wink

AllNines

345 posts

66 months

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TonyHetherington said:
Hope you never have to change a bulb on an early S2 Elise hehe

wheel arch liner off, unbolt entire headlight cluster from behind, then bring forward and detach.
You don't need to remove the wheel arch to access the three bolts but yes, it is a bit of a faff. Not more so than, say, a Fiesta, though. Thankfully my daily has easily-accessible bulbs.

hora

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18,423 posts

95 months

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Are you SURE about Halfords? Using Google theres a few stories of Halfords struggling.

Negative Creep

12,749 posts

111 months

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hora said:
Are you SURE about Halfords? Using Google theres a few stories of Halfords struggling.
Halfords won't change a bulb if it involves removing components from the vehicle (insurance reasons)

McSam

5,451 posts

59 months

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Negative Creep said:
hora said:
Are you SURE about Halfords? Using Google theres a few stories of Halfords struggling.
Halfords won't change a bulb if it involves removing components from the vehicle (insurance reasons)
Depends who you get. There is no formal training for bulb fitting, it's best learnt from experience so that's mostly how it's taught. Obviously a novice fitter can have difficulty with some cars, but I can't remember ever turning a customer away because none of us working at the time were capable of changing a headlight bulb on their car. We will take stuff off if we need to - I've had the whole air charging system out of an A8 to get to its main beam - though I'm not certain whether we're strictly supposed to or not. Since our insurance covers battery fitting which can also involve removal of plenty other stuff, and our own computer system occasionally recommends moving things like header tanks to get to bulbs, I imagine we are covered to take things out to get to bulbs.

Negative Creep

12,749 posts

111 months

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McSam said:
Negative Creep said:
hora said:
Are you SURE about Halfords? Using Google theres a few stories of Halfords struggling.
Halfords won't change a bulb if it involves removing components from the vehicle (insurance reasons)
Depends who you get. There is no formal training for bulb fitting, it's best learnt from experience so that's mostly how it's taught. Obviously a novice fitter can have difficulty with some cars, but I can't remember ever turning a customer away because none of us working at the time were capable of changing a headlight bulb on their car. We will take stuff off if we need to - I've had the whole air charging system out of an A8 to get to its main beam - though I'm not certain whether we're strictly supposed to or not. Since our insurance covers battery fitting which can also involve removal of plenty other stuff, and our own computer system occasionally recommends moving things like header tanks to get to bulbs, I imagine we are covered to take things out to get to bulbs.
That was the policy at the one I used to work at. Annoying from the customer's point of view but it avoided an expensive bill for the store if anything were to go wrong

McSam

5,451 posts

59 months

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We must just be a particularly determined bunch of nutters, then wink I don't see why we shouldn't take components off/move them around to get to fit bulbs, if the manufacturer designed it to be removable and it doesn't look in ridiculously bad condition I can't see a problem. I've been operating this policy for years and it's not bitten me yet - touch wood - and it's refreshing how many people appreciate the £6 charge when many bits come off their car or my arm disappears up a wheelarch hehe

GingerWizard

4,691 posts

82 months

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I took mine apart then used my wifes small hands to re fix in place. I hated doing it though!!!! Also once the first goes the other will pretty soon....

My civic takes less then 30 secs, its ridiculously easy!
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