f430 running costs?? clutch life etc

f430 running costs?? clutch life etc

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tuscaneer

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7,766 posts

225 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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not been in a ferrari before but am considering a change from years in astons.what are the running costs of a 430 in terms of service intervals,service costs,clutch life etc.??

cheers in advance

Adz man

344 posts

159 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Oooh well what a question. It can cost you from £1k to £5k pa. It depends on the greatness of your car really and depending on who you use for servicing.

An annual can be £600 if you really hunt around. Major services can be £1,800 which are every 3 years I think from memory.

Buying a car from a main dealer in their approved network will give you a 2 year "Power" warranty which is the middle of the range one. Decent warranty that Ferrari brought in Feb 2010 to incise buyers to buy from a main dealer rather than a "Specialist".

Clutches around £2,500 every 18k miles or so. You may not need to pay for that depending on how long you keep it and how many miles your car has of course.

No cambelts as the car is chain driven. The 360 belts had to be changed every 3 years.

Hope this helps.

Oh and PS, the car is amazing. It's a no brainer, get one!

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

232 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Went from a DB9 to a F430, similar costs so far.

steelej

1,761 posts

207 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Come on Adz, have you even read your manual biggrin

Servicing is milage dependant, there's a major at 6250, 18750,31250 etc etc every 12.5k, if you don't do 12.5k every year then inbetween the milage services you only need an annual. As Adz said annual is around 600-800 quid and the major varies as the milage increases. I just had the 18750 done in November and it cost just over 1500.

Also my car has done in total 19.5k miles and my clutch is at 33% so it appears to have quite a bit of life left in it. Clutch life does depend a lot on how you drive the car, but before you buy it's a must to find out what the clutch wear is.

John.

tuscaneer

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Friday 11th February 2011
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good info,cheers for the replies folks.looking at cars with 10-15000 miles on so the clutch info is valuable.i feel i will go manual instead of flappy so i assume this extends clutch life??service costs don't seem too different to my current aston v8 and past worries about cambelts on a 360 are obviously void now as well!

one thing i have noticed is lots of cars have had a surprisingly(to me at least) high number of owners over relatively short periods of time.you must all get bored quite quickly!

one final question,how do you see residuals on a percentile basis over the next few years?i've lost 50 grand in 4 years from new in the aston and could do with some good news on this front!

thanks again

UH-Matt

2,172 posts

240 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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tuscaneer said:
good info,cheers for the replies folks.looking at cars with 10-15000 miles on so the clutch info is valuable.i feel i will go manual instead of flappy so i assume this extends clutch life??service costs don't seem too different to my current aston v8 and past worries about cambelts on a 360 are obviously void now as well!

one thing i have noticed is lots of cars have had a surprisingly(to me at least) high number of owners over relatively short periods of time.you must all get bored quite quickly!

one final question,how do you see residuals on a percentile basis over the next few years?i've lost 50 grand in 4 years from new in the aston and could do with some good news on this front!

thanks again
I also lost a lot of money on 18 months of AM ownership. Ended up in a Gallardo, buy wisely a few years old and your not going to lose anything like the AM.

Also don't rule out F1 gearbox just because your concerned about clutch etc. Go drive both and the F1 might win you over, it did me. My Gallardo is in for a new clutch right now, on its annual service and I haven't minded spending £3k-4k as the car has cost me nothing else all year and hasn't lost a penny either. At least now I can enjoy a car with a 100% fresh clutch... Factor it in when buying if you are concerned smile

Adz man

344 posts

159 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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steelej said:
Come on Adz, have you even read your manual biggrin

Servicing is milage dependant, there's a major at 6250, 18750,31250 etc etc every 12.5k, if you don't do 12.5k every year then inbetween the milage services you only need an annual. As Adz said annual is around 600-800 quid and the major varies as the milage increases. I just had the 18750 done in November and it cost just over 1500.

Also my car has done in total 19.5k miles and my clutch is at 33% so it appears to have quite a bit of life left in it. Clutch life does depend a lot on how you drive the car, but before you buy it's a must to find out what the clutch wear is.

John.
Ah but John I bought my 06 car last year with just 3k miles on it the main dealer had just done a major service on it due to its age not mileage. It's whatever happens soonest.

Webber3

1,228 posts

219 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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What about discs & pads? I've read that carbon ceramics have quite a long life, but what about steel on pre 2008 models?

ChrisFitz

748 posts

179 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Adz man said:
It's whatever happens soonest.
Not my understanding and what Maranello's told me last year. It's purely mileage based.

steelej

1,761 posts

207 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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tuscaneer said:
one thing i have noticed is lots of cars have had a surprisingly(to me at least) high number of owners over relatively short periods of time.you must all get bored quite quickly!
Not something to be worried about, these cars change hands often, especially if you're looking at the 05/06 models, at that point in time there would have been a big waiting list and lots of people would buy and sell to make a quick buck, or buy and sell after running for a short while not losing any money.

When I got My 56 plate 430 it was 3 years old had 5 owners before me and had only covered 6k miles. Just buy on history and condition and you'll be fine. smile

John.

tuscaneer

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225 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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steelej said:
Not something to be worried about, these cars change hands often, especially if you're looking at the 05/06 models, at that point in time there would have been a big waiting list and lots of people would buy and sell to make a quick buck, or buy and sell after running for a short while not losing any money.

When I got My 56 plate 430 it was 3 years old had 5 owners before me and had only covered 6k miles. Just buy on history and condition and you'll be fine. smile

John.
great info and quite reassuring cheers fella

Soovy

35,829 posts

271 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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tuscaneer said:
great info and quite reassuring cheers fella
SteeleJ is right.

These cars are generally bought by people who have the resources to buy, enjoy, and move on quicly to the next toy. Imagine if you will a seven year old in Hamleys with a budget of 5k!!


Buy on condition. I'd be tempted to go for a main dealer car if it's your first one, for (a) the two year warranty and (b) them actually giving a toss if it goes bang, because they have Ferrari UK to answer to.




tuscaneer

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Sunday 13th February 2011
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ahh right!,wasn't aware that the dealer network offered 2 year warranty.that would explain the apparent premium on prices

Soovy

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271 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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tuscaneer said:
ahh right!,wasn't aware that the dealer network offered 2 year warranty.that would explain the apparent premium on prices
Yeah, similar gig to Porsche.

2 years on all approved cars, which is amazing value, to me. That extra money buys some serious peace of mind for armageddon scenarios.

Won't cover worn clutches, of course.




355fiorano

430 posts

242 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Asked about clutch costs at main dealers and quotes were for 3k-4k +VAT depending on if flywheel and release bearing were needed.

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Soovy said:
2 years on all approved cars, which is amazing value, to me. That extra money buys some serious peace of mind for armageddon scenarios.
My 06 430 went in for annual service recently with 12k miles on it. I'd bought it 8 months earlier with 8K miles. Needed 2 new exhaust manifolds and new wisbones - OUCH!...was pleased I'd bought from Main Dealer with 2 year warranty! Manifolds not a warranty issue but were done 100% on goodwill basis..which was nice.

Mario149

7,755 posts

178 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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roygarth said:
My 06 430 went in for annual service recently with 12k miles on it. I'd bought it 8 months earlier with 8K miles. Needed 2 new exhaust manifolds and new wisbones - OUCH!...was pleased I'd bought from Main Dealer with 2 year warranty! Manifolds not a warranty issue but were done 100% on goodwill basis..which was nice.
I'd love to know what the issue with Ferrari and designing exhaust manifolds is! Every V8 car from the 355 onwards seems to get through them like they were a consumable, I just had to have one refurbed on my 355.

Glad you got your manifolds for free from Ferrari, but I'd lay money on them going again in a few years time frown

roygarth

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248 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Mario149 said:
I'd love to know what the issue with Ferrari and designing exhaust manifolds is! Every V8 car from the 355 onwards seems to get through them like they were a consumable, I just had to have one refurbed on my 355.

Glad you got your manifolds for free from Ferrari, but I'd lay money on them going again in a few years time frown
They 'said' the replacement manifolds were a re-design.

Mario149

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178 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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roygarth said:
They 'said' the replacement manifolds were a re-design.
Here's hoping beer

tuscaneer

Original Poster:

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Monday 14th February 2011
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roygarth said:
My 06 430 went in for annual service recently with 12k miles on it. I'd bought it 8 months earlier with 8K miles. Needed 2 new exhaust manifolds and new wisbones - OUCH!...was pleased I'd bought from Main Dealer with 2 year warranty! Manifolds not a warranty issue but were done 100% on goodwill basis..which was nice.
christ,that sounds expensive! I will definately be asking for service reports about them