how can i get in safe mode without a keyboard?

how can i get in safe mode without a keyboard?

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petemurphy

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10,122 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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trying to sort friends dell pc thats buggered

the keyboard ( usb only ) wont work until windows starts so i cannot chose to go into safe mode

when it gets in windows ( vista ) it lasts 30 secs before bsod comes up

tried to type msconfig in run but although that can be typed in nothing comes up before bsod

can get in task manager for a few seconds if that helps

any ideas?

patchst

185 posts

200 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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You need to enable Legacy USB support in the bios and the keyboard will work at bootup.

petemurphy

Original Poster:

10,122 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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patchst said:
You need to enable Legacy USB support in the bios and the keyboard will work at bootup.
how do i get to it though if the keyboard is not working! frown

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

209 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Open msconfig
Go to boot.ini tab
Tick the safeboot box
Reboot

Alternatively just hold the power button down whilst the Windows is loading screen comes on, the machine will shut down. When you restart it should give you the safe mode options



petemurphy

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183 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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itsnotarace said:
Open msconfig
Go to boot.ini tab
Tick the safeboot box
Reboot

Alternatively just hold the power button down whilst the Windows is loading screen comes on, the machine will shut down. When you restart it should give you the safe mode options
not enough time to get into msconfig before bsod

cant select safe mode as keyboard doesnt work at that point!

Mazdarese

21,013 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Does it have a PS2 port? Can you get a PS2 keyboard? Or a USB/PS2 adapter?

king arthur

6,566 posts

261 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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This is precisely the reason why I keep a cheap old style wired PS/2 keyboard somewhere safely in a cupboard amongst all the other spare computer bits.

petemurphy

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183 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Mazdarese said:
Does it have a PS2 port? Can you get a PS2 keyboard? Or a USB/PS2 adapter?
doesnt have a port - i have a ps2 keyboard but no adapter

yes i used to have all the kit but thought i was out of the repairing business! dam me thinking it will take 5 mins!

if i get his repair cd will that let me boot to safe mode?

tim2100

6,280 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Restart the machine, after the windows splash screen appears, hold the power down.

Then restart and it will come up with the screen for incomplete boot, and then go into safe mode.

petemurphy

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183 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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tim2100 said:
Restart the machine, after the windows splash screen appears, hold the power down.

Then restart and it will come up with the screen for incomplete boot, and then go into safe mode.
nope comes up that windows did not start normally with the options for safe mode but the default is start windows normally and i cant change this as the keyboard will not work at this stage!! aarrgghh!

tenohfive

6,276 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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I went through this recently...legacy USB is enabled but I still can't use my USB keyboard.

Go to argos/asda/tesco and pick up a £3 PS/2 keyboard.

petemurphy

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Wednesday 16th February 2011
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tenohfive said:
I went through this recently...legacy USB is enabled but I still can't use my USB keyboard.

Go to argos/asda/tesco and pick up a £3 PS/2 keyboard.
theres no ps/2 socket! heap of cack machine!

tenohfive

6,276 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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petemurphy said:
tenohfive said:
I went through this recently...legacy USB is enabled but I still can't use my USB keyboard.

Go to argos/asda/tesco and pick up a £3 PS/2 keyboard.
theres no ps/2 socket! heap of cack machine!
Doh! Didn't read properly.

What's the specs - could you get away with chucking a cheap new motherboard in there with a PS/2 socket?

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Unplug the machine. Remove the CMOS battery and leave it for a few mins. Reinsert CMOS battery, turn on and your keyboard should work again.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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tenohfive said:
petemurphy said:
tenohfive said:
I went through this recently...legacy USB is enabled but I still can't use my USB keyboard.

Go to argos/asda/tesco and pick up a £3 PS/2 keyboard.
theres no ps/2 socket! heap of cack machine!
Doh! Didn't read properly.

What's the specs - could you get away with chucking a cheap new motherboard in there with a PS/2 socket?
LiveUSB of ubuntu, and then edit the boot.ini at your leisure.

petemurphy

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10,122 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Funk said:
Unplug the machine. Remove the CMOS battery and leave it for a few mins. Reinsert CMOS battery, turn on and your keyboard should work again.
hmm will this delete anything?

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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petemurphy said:
Funk said:
Unplug the machine. Remove the CMOS battery and leave it for a few mins. Reinsert CMOS battery, turn on and your keyboard should work again.
hmm will this delete anything?
Nope, just resets the BIOS data to the default settings. Which they should probably be on anyway. All the data on your hard drive isn't touched.

In fact, thinking about it, if it's an old machine, it could be a failing CMOS battery that's causing your woes. It's about the size of a 10 pence piece, they normally die after 4-5 years. When mine went, the machine wouldn't boot properly and I went through everything I could think of. Replaced the CMOS battery and everything worked fine again.

petemurphy

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10,122 posts

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Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Funk said:
Nope, just resets the BIOS data to the default settings. Which they should probably be on anyway. All the data on your hard drive isn't touched.

In fact, thinking about it, if it's an old machine, it could be a failing CMOS battery that's causing your woes. It's about the size of a 10 pence piece, they normally die after 4-5 years. When mine went, the machine wouldn't boot properly and I went through everything I could think of. Replaced the CMOS battery and everything worked fine again.
will try it soon as the footies finished!