RE: Ferrari FF - In The Metal At Last!

RE: Ferrari FF - In The Metal At Last!

Tuesday 1st March 2011

Ferrari FF - In The Metal At Last!

Geneva reveal for Ferrari's novel 208mph 'four-wheel-driver'



There's nothing like a Ferrari reveal to really apply the gloss to a Geneva show, and a new range-topper is even better. So here at last, after the teaser shots and development viral videos, is the new FF, or 'Ferrari Four' (so that's Ferrari-Ferrari Four, to give it its rather uncomfortable full name).


The FF is Ferrari's response to feedback from frustrated 612 Scaglietti owners who had to leave their cars in the garage when it came to skiing trips. They wanted a more practical 'big' Ferrari, and with 450-800 litres of luggage space, their requests have been answered.

It's a car of massive visual impact, partly because of the love it-loathe it styling, but also, as with its 612 predecessor, the sheer dimensions mean it takes up a formidable chunk of road space. And yes, there is a certain similarity with a Munich-bred, much-loved motoring oddity.

Still, If you want a historic reference to all this, there was a 'Breadvan' version of the iconic 250 GTO back in the 1960s - even if that was created outside of the factory - so there is some form for prancing horses in this mould.


As we've reported before, it's powered by a huge 6.3-litre V12 with direct fuel injection, pumping out 651bhp at a screaming 8,000rpm and 504lb ft of torque. Using a double-clutch F1 'box, it can get from 0-62mph in 3.7sec and go on to 208mph.

It's also the firm's first ever four-wheel drive car using a system Ferrari has termed 4RM. The company has traced the root of this technology back to a development program begun in 1987 by the legendary Ferrari engineer Mauro Forghieri. The man who had such a hand in creating Ferrari's cars through the 60s, 70s and 80s commenced the build of two prototypes between 1987 and 1989 known as the 408/4RM. These were ostensibly to compare the properties of chassis materials - one had a laser welded stainless steel tub, the other a bonded Aluminium structure; we know what Ferrari decided to pursue - and also to explore the primitive early world of computer design. They also had unique 4-litre V8 engines rated at 299bhp and adjustable suspension, while the mechanicals were clothed in some typically 'eighties style' glassfibre sandwich panels.


As the name hinted, they were also four-wheel drive, and it's a development of this initial idea that Ferrari has used on the FF, albeit adapted for a front-engined car. In the 408, a form of hydraulic coupling was developed to sense a loss of traction at the rear axle and send torque to the front: in the FF a similar coupling is used, but the transmission actually takes drive from both ends of the crankshaft. Drive to the rear is sent as usual via a propshaft, but due to the extreme front-mid position of the big V12, Ferrari has found the space to hang a hydraulic coupling off the front of the engine and take additional drive to the front wheels via some half shafts. When the rear wheels begin to slip the car's sophisticated electronics intervene, engaging the front axle to a varying degree. The great benefit, says Ferrari, is a four-wheel drive system that weighs 50% less than conventional systems without the need for propshafts running up and down the car.


Even so, the FF is no lightweight at 1,790kg dry. Owners might need more than a shovel and an old towrope to dig it out of a snowdrift at their chalet. And despite Ferrari's stop-start system, the combined fuel figure is 18.3mpg. One thing's for certain: it's a Ferrari like no other.

 











 

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Ne0

Original Poster:

62 posts

169 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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I like that, different but in a good way....

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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I do love this car, in every way.

Am I the only one who sees this shot as an FF sitting in a half-pipe?


B10

1,238 posts

267 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Quite like it. Perhaps they could have called it the Ferrari Scimitar FF, therefore name checking two UK cars that the same time rather than one.

Doshy

825 posts

217 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Not sure about those headlights.....

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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I quite like it, but I get the feeling it's not the most photogenic as far as Ferraris go.

eccounts

228 posts

176 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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The interior shots of the FF with 2 sets of golf clubs in the boot sums it up. Is this Ferraris' Cayenne moment ?

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Beefmeister said:
I do love this car, in every way.

Am I the only one who sees this shot as an FF sitting in a half-pipe?

It is, isn't it?. confused

Edited by ZOLLAR on Tuesday 1st March 12:52

Japveesix

4,480 posts

168 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Beefmeister said:
I do love this car, in every way.

Am I the only one who sees this shot as an FF sitting in a half-pipe?
That's all I can see now smile

snotrag

14,457 posts

211 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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I didnt like this at first.

Now having read a bit more, I really do.



That is a very clever solution to 4WD - I guess that as a result of that setup, you also usefully get a 4WD system that provides lots of torque to the front wheels at slow speeds, but progressively less at higher speeds - due to the differences between engine speed, wheel speed, and NOT having a gearbox at the front to multiply it like the back wheels?

Clever stuff, well done Ferrari.

Deerfoot

4,902 posts

184 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Lovely.

george h

14,707 posts

164 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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I thought the styling department couldn't have got any worse after they did the 458, but I was wrong it seems. By far the ugliest Ferrari since the 400.

RCA

1,769 posts

268 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
Beefmeister said:
I do love this car, in every way.

Am I the only one who sees this shot as an FF sitting in a half-pipe?

It is, isn't it?. confused

Edited by ZOLLAR on Tuesday 1st March 12:52
No, I don't think so... although it does look it...

Start at the left and concentrate on the marble not the lights and you can see it is a flat floor.... I think.........

zakelwe

4,449 posts

198 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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It's a Frankensteins monster of a car with bits from lots of dead cars stitched together.

Perhaps it has ecaped from the Sultan of Brunei's "specials" garage.

I'll have the 4C from the same manufacturer please.

Andy

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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eccounts said:
The interior shots of the FF with 2 sets of golf clubs in the boot sums it up. Is this Ferraris' Cayenne moment ?
So what?

They have obviously listened to customer feedback and given people what they have asked for.

Hardly a typical 4x4 with 650 bhp either.

ecs0set

2,471 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Why have they fitted side indicator repeaters from the 308?

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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RCA said:
ZOLLAR said:
Beefmeister said:
I do love this car, in every way.

Am I the only one who sees this shot as an FF sitting in a half-pipe?

It is, isn't it?. confused

Edited by ZOLLAR on Tuesday 1st March 12:52
No, I don't think so... although it does look it...

Start at the left and concentrate on the marble not the lights and you can see it is a flat floor.... I think.........
Its giving me a headache hehe

jofanon

185 posts

211 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Soooo ugly.

Hate it!

That back end is just awful.

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

253 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Given that every other 4 seat Ferrari has the depreciation of a stone falling off of a cliff, I'll say no thanks.

senninha2

132 posts

181 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Like it lots, and I'm generally an F-car fan although I do think the headlights will date it quickly, a bit like the 458 Italia is also dating quickly.

I suspect we'll see other manufacturers going this route of FR layout, 2+2 seating and 4wd .... if only someone would build this at around half the money ... oh silly me, thats the Honda HRT



chevronb37

6,471 posts

186 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Small note, I believe the famous "Breadvan" used a 250 GT SWB as its donor vehicle, not a GTO as stated in the article.