Van Speed limit ?

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Jonnie B

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229 posts

219 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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HI.
Can any body set things straight ?

On a dual carriage way (not moterway) & normal A roads, what is the speed limit fot a normal van say a Vitto/transit.
As one of my friends said it is lower than that for cars ?

Thanks

john.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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Yes it's lower.

60 on a dual carriage way & I think 50 on a single carriageway. I'm sure others will confirm if I'm right.

Dave 500

6,334 posts

242 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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60 dual carriage way (not motorway)
50 normal A roads

HTH's

Grandad Gaz

5,093 posts

246 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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A roads (single) - 50
A roads (dual) - 60
Motorways - 70

Anglia

24 posts

206 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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They are correct, unless it's a car derived van, fiesta, corsa or similar, then the speed limit on a dual carriageway is 60mph. A friend of mine who works for BT was done for exceding the limit whilst driving a transit Connect!

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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For future reference:

1. Use a search engine.

2. Type in a query, perhaps, 'van speed limits uk.'

3. Click on a page.

4. Read answer.


0.03 seconds on google said:
"Clarification of national speed limits for vans

It is very important for drivers to bear in mind that vans (and all goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 tonnes) are subject to lower national speed limits than cars on both single and dual carriageway roads.

Whilst a car may travel at up to 60 mph on single carriageways and 70 mph on dual carriageways vans are only allowed to travel up to 50 mph on single carriageway roads and 60 mph on dual carriageway roads."

m8rky

2,090 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/speedmanageme...




As above,the van that most often catches people out is the Transit Connect as it is not classed as car derived and is bound by the lower limit.

shambolic

2,146 posts

167 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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I got done in January in Fife Scotland for 76mph in my works Vivaro. 70 limit a road dual carriageway. But I can only do 60 due to vehicle class.
Some cars nowadays must have a fully laden weight of more than my van fully laden

Jonnie B

Original Poster:

229 posts

219 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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Thanks for all the replys.

It sbeen a great help.

john

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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Didn't we have a lovely long thread a while ago about van derived cars? based on the Merc Vito IIRC.

Robin Hood

703 posts

205 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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m8rky said:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/speedmanageme...




As above,the van that most often catches people out is the Transit Connect as it is not classed as car derived and is bound by the lower limit.
The Transit Connect is the only "small" van with a maximum gross laden weight in excess of 2 tonnes is the reason.

From link posted above:

"There is one (small) group of vans which have the same speed limits are cars by virtue of the definitions in Schedule 6 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act of 1984. These are vans that are both derived from a car chassis and also have a maximum laden weight of no more than 2 tonnes".

AndyFoo

1,419 posts

175 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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For other peoples reference a new shape Volkswagen Caddy Van (and long wheelbase version) are also restricted to 50 on national speed limit, single carriage way, A roads.


R1 Loon

26,988 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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Just wondering about this. At various points on the A55 the speed limit is shown as this



rather than the more normal NSL sign. Does this mean the limit is 70 for vans too, or does the restriction still apply? I'm guessing the answer is "No", as HGVs could also claim 70 is OK for them to?

The next logical question then is why show it the above way rather than as the normal NSL sign?


skeggysteve

5,724 posts

217 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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simoid said:
For future reference:
For your future reference.

Pistonheads is known to be a far better search engine than any other. wink

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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R1 Loon said:
Just wondering about this. At various points on the A55 the speed limit is shown as this



rather than the more normal NSL sign. Does this mean the limit is 70 for vans too, or does the restriction still apply? I'm guessing the answer is "No", as HGVs could also claim 70 is OK for them to?

The next logical question then is why show it the above way rather than as the normal NSL sign?
The A720 round Edinburgh has a 70 sign too. This has motorway restrictions in place, could it be something to do with that on the A55?

R1 Loon

26,988 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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simoid said:
The A720 round Edinburgh has a 70 sign too. This has motorway restrictions in place, could it be something to do with that on the A55?
The A55 has all the trappings of a motorway eg proper sliproad junctions, no instan entrance exit etc, but it's still an A-road though, not even an A55(M) type description. Just intrigued, either way I'll get a bking if pulled.

Sam.F

1,144 posts

200 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Cumbria Police could do with an update on this - one of their Transit vans was causing no end of trouble sitting at exactly 70 on the A66 the other day.

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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R1 Loon said:
The next logical question then is why show it the above way rather than as the normal NSL sign?
Can't speak for Scotland (the rules might be slightly different north of the border) but, for the A55 at least, ISTR that it's because sections have been designated by order as 'Special Road', despite being non-motorway. As such, the legislation applicable to speed limits on those sections differs from that for 'normal' NSL roads.

rewc

2,187 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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The law is a mess. A vehicle registered as a 'motor caravan' i.e a mototorhome, which has an unladn weight of no more than 3.05t has the same speed limits as cars.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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SS2. said:
Can't speak for Scotland (the rules might be slightly different north of the border) but, for the A55 at least, ISTR that it's because sections have been designated by order as 'Special Road', despite being non-motorway. As such, the legislation applicable to speed limits on those sections differs from that for 'normal' NSL roads.
ok I'll ask wink
So where 70 is posted as above are the van speed limits 70 or do they still go with the NSL list