EBC Greenstuff Pads V Standard Road Pads?

EBC Greenstuff Pads V Standard Road Pads?

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Pedmeister

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1,083 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Greetings gents!

I am interested in hearing from anybody with experience of using EBC Greenstuff pads on a road car. I have been using such pads on the Hi-Spec billet 4 calipers I have fitted to my Capri. The engine has been enlarged to 3,000cc & a new Turbo Technics conversion was fitted in 2007. I had already uprated the suspension & brakes in anticipation of the large hike in power. The car punts out 280 ft lbs of torque & 228 Bhp- as per rolling road testing at Rick Wood Racing.

In addition to the upgraded brakes, I have also fitted a modification recommended by Capri Sport- a Land Rover master cylinder & 2 litre Capri servo unit. This has improved the braking effect. The point is, I am not convinced at the performance of EBC Greenstuff pads for normal, occasionally fast(!) road driving. I find that they lack bite, unless they have been worked hard, thereby putting some temperature into them. I wonder whether I would see better results by switching to standard brake pads, which would offer good performance even when cold?

Your thoughts please fella's!

Much obliged!


Arun_D

2,302 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Almost sound like yoiu've mind your made your mind up, I would say stick to road pads too. My experience with greens is also that they need a bit of heat to start biting, and then don't really bite much more than a standard road pad.

Badgerboy

1,783 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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And it my experience they will then crumble to bits.

Pedmeister

Original Poster:

1,083 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Badgerboy said:
And it my experience they will then crumble to bits.
Really?! Tell me more please.....

peterzoom

313 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I used Greenstuff and found they were simply the same as O/E no better, no worse in performance but produced significantly less dust on the wheels. I moved to Red on the Z3 and Yellow on the XKR and XJR. Red seem to suit the lighter car where the yellows took too long to warm and were very agressive in terms of wear on the BMW discs. On the Jaguars the yellows are great, I rate their fast warm up and fade resistance, just be a little wary when fully cold!
I used Pagids for a short while on the Z3 and on the rear of the XJR, similar performance but way, way too much dust generated for my liking.
Overall a thumbs up for Red and Yellow but be wary of the wear rates on both pads and discs

wackojacko

8,581 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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shout
with that much power you want to be going for yellows or Blue's.

I have Yellow stuffs on mine and they take a hammering out on track and really bite well even on a cold winter morning.

NHK244V

3,358 posts

172 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I run em in me cortina and after they were bedded in they were fine, better than OE BUT the same as older style asbestos pads i have on another cortina with the same spec brakes.

hyperblue

2,802 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Even EBC don't recommend Greenstuff for cars over 200bhp...

skinley

1,681 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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hyperblue said:
Even EBC don't recommend Greenstuff for cars over 200bhp...
Surely the weight of the car is more significant than how much power the engine produces, unless they assume you will be accelerating and braking simultaneously?confused

Matt UK

17,703 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I currently use greens on my MX5 - I find they are fine for the road and track. Cheap as well.

hyperblue

2,802 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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skinley said:
Surely the weight of the car is more significant than how much power the engine produces, unless they assume you will be accelerating and braking simultaneously?confused
Well yes, I'd agree. Just paraphrasing EBC's website smile

PhillipM

6,523 posts

189 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Tbh, I got an old set of Greenstuff by mistake a couple of months back and had the same problems, with a switch to the new 2011 compound the initial bite improved a hell of a lot and they don't need warming up either.

Merp

2,220 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I've just fitted a set and not only were they £25 cheaper than a set of OEM. They are also Green! biggrin

Johnny

9,652 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I had some Bluestuff NDX installed on the CTR today... Seem bloody brilliant so far.

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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IMO, EBC are superb.........











......marketeers!
Wouldn't entertain a set, no matter the colour - Ferodo DS2500, Tar•ox, Carbon Lorraine (sp?), and other proper brands, would all be on my radar.

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

228 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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wouldn't bother with the greenstuff.
Use the red, yellow or Blues... depending on vehicle weight/type of use...

RadoVR6

1,210 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I have recently fitted Red Stuff pads to my Saab and would recommend them! They bite really well and i have not managed to overheat them yet.

Alot better than standard by far and they dont really need any heat in them to start biting. I had green stuff pads in the Corrado and they took a bit to warm up.


kambites

67,576 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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My Elise had Greenstuff pads on them when I bought it and they were absolutely rubbish. No initial bite, appalling pedal feel and so little friction that I could barely lock the wheels up. I suspect the car was just too light for them to ever get up to temperature. I now have Mintex 1144s on, and they're good, if rather noisy.

toast boy

1,242 posts

226 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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We've got greens on one of the MGBs, wouldn't really rate them, not appreciably better than the (pretty woeful) original pads and incredibly squealy. As Kambites said, it's possible that the car isn't heavy enough to get them up to temperature. I remember last time this question was asked Pagid pads being highly recommended, next time I'm changing on any of the cars I'll be giving them a go and reporting back.

Magicmogwai

8 posts

176 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I have a Audi A4 Cab with a 2.5 diesel lump so it's fair to say that it's a hippo of a car! I upgraded to greenstuff and personally wouldn't look back. You'll be startled by the initial lack of bite when you first press the pedal but you'll quickly get used to it and as my car is very heavy they heat up quick, I wouldn't recommend them on a lightweight motor for this reason though.
As for performance, on my car there's no real difference apart from absolutely no dust and they have so far lasted more than twice the OEM's, they're cheaper too, no brainer really.