Cars looking different for the USA market

Cars looking different for the USA market

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Der Wachauring

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14 posts

157 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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I noticed as a kid, watching various American shows, that cars sold both here/Europe and the USA sometimes looked a little different. Particularly headlights, indicators and bumpers.

Is this due to crash regulations (or other regulations?) or do our American motoring cousins just like their European or Japanese cars styled a little differently?

Here are some examples which I found:

Mercedes SL/ SLC. Twin circular lights for them, plain rectangular units for us. I think the US car looks fantastic. The US bumper treatment too suits the car much better:

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Rolls Royce Silver Spirit/ Spur. Again, just how good do those twin square lamps look!





BMW 3 series. That is one hell of a bumper on the US E21.





Audi 100. Think something like this appeared in Spielberg's ET. Looked different to the European spec cars:





Ferrari F355. The US cars have solid orange side lights and indicator units. The UK-spec (mine in the picture has clear units wink ). Notice also the side rectangular indicator units infront of the front wheels for the US cars and a small circular indicator behind the front wheels on my car.





Mercedes SEL: slighyly different headlights on the US car, and angular headlight washers. Strange. Bumper seems more pronounced too on the US car.





I guess there could be many differences too in engines, interior specs and alloys.
Please post more pics of these differences and comment on which one you feel looks better.

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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There was (is?) a US regulation regarding faired-in headlights. I don't think they're allowed in case they leave broken glass all over the road in a head-on collision.

I think they also have tougher crash regulations over there that necessitates bigger bumpers on some cars.

For ages nearly every American car from every manufacturer had the same set of headlights - a pair of small rectangular units, as seen here:



First American car with fully-integrated headlight units (I presume once people started making them out of plastic the 'broken glass' ceased to be an issue), was this:



Only 20 years after the NSU Ro80 hehe

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Biggest crime of the lot was the US-market Citroen DS and SM:





That said, I prefer the US-look XJS. Looks more 'Jaguar' with round lights:


RB5

115 posts

165 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Ford Focus

USA:


Euro:

Der Wachauring

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157 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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RB5 said:
Ford Focus

USA:


Euro:
Wow. That rear bumper on the US Focus is pretty poor. Does look distinctive, though.

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Another famous 'Federal' redesign:


Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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It's the requirement for '5mph' bumpers.

Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 215

They've ruined all sorts of euro imports

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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A lex said:
Biggest difference on the MK1 Focus was the indicators/running lamps moved out of the front cluster and into the centre grille on the front.
they didn't stop there though.


Der Wachauring

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14 posts

157 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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From the posts so far, I am concluding that the more luxury cars (Mercs, Jags, Rolls and even the Volvo) look better in US spec.

redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Pretty sure I read somewhere that the US focus has a physically larger body shell than the ROW. I seem to recall that the UK Ford rally teams built their cars from US bodyshells as they allowed for more room to fit 4WD and associated racing gubbins.

The side reflectors noted on the 355 are a requirement. You will find them on motorcycles also.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

157 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Twincam16 said:
Another famous 'Federal' redesign:

Err, no. This is a properly federalised E-Type (or XKE as they were known locally):



Apologies to those who have now gone blind! weeping

David87

6,656 posts

212 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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It's the comedy lumps on the 911's bumpers that always get me - just what are they for?!
US

Euro

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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A lex said:
Thats the next model along isnt it - Mk2 US Focus??

This is what I am talking about:

Yeah, it's a later one, but it's the Mk1 ROW Focus with lots of tat attached.

binlicker

377 posts

162 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Der Wachauring said:
I noticed as a kid, watching various American shows, that cars sold both here/Europe and the USA sometimes looked a little different. Particularly headlights, indicators and bumpers.

Is this due to crash regulations (or other regulations?) or do our American motoring cousins just like their European or Japanese cars styled a little differently?

Here are some examples which I found:

Mercedes SL/ SLC. Twin circular lights for them, plain rectangular units for us. I think the US car looks fantastic. The US bumper treatment too suits the car much better:

[url][img]



Rolls Royce Silver Spirit/ Spur. Again, just how good do those twin square lamps look!





BMW 3 series. That is one hell of a bumper on the US E21.





Audi 100. Think something like this appeared in Spielberg's ET. Looked different to the European spec cars:





Ferrari F355. The US cars have solid orange side lights and indicator units. The UK-spec (mine in the picture has clear units wink ). Notice also the side rectangular indicator units infront of the front wheels for the US cars and a small circular indicator behind the front wheels on my car.





Mercedes SEL: slighyly different headlights on the US car, and angular headlight washers. Strange. Bumper seems more pronounced too on the US car.





I guess there could be many differences too in engines, interior specs and alloys.
Please post more pics of these differences and comment on which one you feel looks better.
Always loved what european manufacturers did with their cars for the US market. Always look more stylish and more purposeful than the domestic versions.

With the exception of the E21 and the 355. Both euro variants of those looked better.


ETA it does seem to apply mainly to european luxury barges however.

And I would like to nominate whoever "federalized" the Countach and ANY 911 for the 'people you would never get tired of punching' thread. Both of those are a travesty.

Edited by binlicker on Saturday 26th March 13:39

VeeFour

3,339 posts

162 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Alfa Romeo managed to 'federalise' the 75 (Milano) without making it (more) ugly:


Hitler Hadrump

1,750 posts

173 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Fiesta MK1. Few simple changes can really ugly up a car.

Benmac

1,468 posts

216 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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The M100 elan was an interesting one. The federal car has an elongated nose but rather than the often "slap on some rubber blocks" method it actually worked. Not sure if it looks better, but definitely not any worse. IIRC all this bumper stuff is because the US regs have a requirement for no damage to be suffered in bumps up to a certain speed (10mph?). The federal Elises had a special dispensation from this rule.

Federal car


My UK car

CampDavid

9,145 posts

198 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Benmac said:
The M100 elan was an interesting one. The federal car has an elongated nose but rather than the often "slap on some rubber blocks" method it actually worked. Not sure if it looks better, but definitely not any worse. IIRC all this bumper stuff is because the US regs have a requirement for no damage to be suffered in bumps up to a certain speed (10mph?). The federal Elises had a special dispensation from this rule.

Federal car


My UK car
Ah, the MGB and rubber blocks, front end too low? Just xhove so blocks in and that'll sort it right out.

I presume that Kia then went with the federal body shell when they remade the Elan?

Benmac

1,468 posts

216 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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Yep the Kia version has the US spec nose and different rear lights to both the US and UK versions as by then the REnault lights weren't available (or the french just wouldn't sell them to the koreans!)