FPN for no front number plate

[Blues]

It fell off, sticky pads not sticky, and i got a pull from a vigilant Motorway Patrol car on the M4 in Wiltshire. He didn't care about my plate having just fallen off, nor that i didn't have any pads with me, and would not overlook the offence. All within his rights of course.

My question: is this offence recorded centrally?
If my plate fell off again, and i was stopped again, would they be able to see my "previous"?

All just out of curiosity

[tenohfive]

Say what you mean man.

"I want to go through speed cameras and want to know if I can get away with leaving my number plate off...but will I get caught doing this?"

[Blues]

I don't advocate speeding, and i certainly don't want to shy away from my responsibilities. After all, they are "safety" cameras, designed and situated to help reduce road accidents - aren't they?

I just wondered whether it could be a case of "i see your number plate has fallen off, for the third time this month Mr Blues" ?

[Monkeylegend]

If you fix it on securely it won't fall off again, problem solved, and no need to worry about building up a criminal record.

[saaby93]

Monkeylegend said:

If you fix it on securely it won't fall off again, problem solved, and no need to worry about building up a criminal record.

Why would he worry about building up a criminal record? Isn't it like a parking fine?

[Blues]

Monkeylegend said:

If you fix it on securely it won't fall off again, problem solved, and no need to worry about building up a criminal record.

Most helpful.. thank you. So i take it you don't know the answer to my question

[Blues]

saaby93 said:

Monkeylegend said:

If you fix it on securely it won't fall off again, problem solved, and no need to worry about building up a criminal record.

Why would he worry about building up a criminal record? Isn't it like a parking fine?

It's not a criminal offence.

[Dwight VanDriver]

Not an offence that merits points so nothing opn your Driving Licence record at DVLA.
As far as I am aware no Force now keeps records of summary offences like in the old days.
Only sanction Plod - long shot- could let DVLA know by letter of reg mark irregularity and then they could record and cause you problems in trelation to yopur number.(Tic)
Dvd
No2av (uncable cable)

[traxx]

Monkeylegend said:

If you fix it on securely it won't fall off again, problem solved, and no need to worry about building up a criminal record.

That's not so easy these days given that some manufactures are delivering cars with no clear method of attaching a plate and a sticker plate is illegal

[motco]

Suspend it from hinges along the top edge so that it will fold back if you run into a grassy knoll...

[Blues]

Thanks DVD, that's what I was hoping to hear.

There is no way I am drilling holes in the front bumper to "attach it securely". It will be as secure as the double sided tape can be.

Hinged along the top :scratchchin" interesting - however I still have the same problem attaching it.

[Tino]

You probably already know this, but a dab of brake cleaner on a cloth cleaning both the body and back of the plate can sometimes make it bettterererer

[caymanjames]

i saw two ferrari 458's in central london last week neither of which had front number plates on, and after a closer look not even anywhere on the front of it to fit one.

how do they get away with it?

[4rephill]

caymanjames said:

i saw two ferrari 458's in central london last week neither of which had front number plates on, and after a closer look not even anywhere on the front of it to fit one.

how do they get away with it?

What country were the rear plates from?. In central London there are plenty of supercars from the middle east with plates that are unreadable to most westerners and I suspect some of them are not required to have a front plate in their homeland.

As for attaching a front plate to a 458, this seems to be the most common way of attaching it: http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/RoadTestsHisto...
(Not the most attractive solution however!).

[stabbed rat]

I know of someone who had their plate revoked for illegal spacing on numerous occasions. (it wouldnt help that it read B011OCK or something along those lines)

I think it works on a tier system, where they will increase the fine a couple of times (if they realise) and then take the plate off you.

BTW - The new car is lovely blues (was at abingdon on the 15th)

[flemke]

traxx said:

a sticker plate is illegal

Not necessarily. The law specifies the BSI standard, and the BSI standard does not rule out stick-on plates. After all, a conventional "plate" is usually some hi-viz stuck onto a plastic backing.
It specifies, IIRC, that the backing must be "rigid" (which a car body is), must be as vertical as possible, and the reg must be readable from certain angles and distances. There is a reference to "flat", but it does not require absolute flatness, and indeed there are millions of front plates in the UK that are not absolutely flat.

[fluffnik]

We really should do away with eco-unfriendly front numberplates - if bikes can do without them why not cars?

[traxx]

flemke said:

Not necessarily. The law specifies the BSI standard, and the BSI standard does not rule out stick-on plates. After all, a conventional "plate" is usually some hi-viz stuck onto a plastic backing.
It specifies, IIRC, that the backing must be "rigid" (which a car body is), must be as vertical as possible, and the reg must be readable from certain angles and distances. There is a reference to "flat", but it does not require absolute flatness, and indeed there are millions of front plates in the UK that are not absolutely flat.

Well one time when I was in my local garage, I was told by Surrey traffic police that I was better to have no plate than a sticker and in anycase they werent that bothered about it since the car had no where to fit a plate

[GT03ROB]

I think you were just unlucky most plod can't be bothered with it. I drove around last year for 8 months without a front plate on the Elise.

[twiglove]

Blues, Sometimes one is just unlucky, I wouldn't worry about it, dont bother running a front plate, Each time you are caught it is a £60 fine, but if you have an illegal size/font/etc you will get 3 points and the fine !!

I think it is just the luck of the draw, some Officers don't even care