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BlueMR2

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6,267 posts

88 months

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I noticed some men fiddling with a street light outside the house earlier and now it is ridiculously bright compared to before, it looks like they may have changed the head as an old looking one is on the floor next to it.

Its like having a floodlight outside the window and is unacceptable. Who would i need to complain to for this issue to be addressed.

They really are having a field day in Leeds these last couple of years doing everything they can to completely ruin the road layout and take away all the character from the areas by fitting one style fits all dictator lamps.

Most of them are so tall all they do is light up the top of trees, shame they couldn't find a tree to install the one outside above so it could go unnoticed frown.

No surprise i live in the ring of labour mp's zone frown.

Mojooo

8,701 posts

66 months

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Probably your local Council if it is just a residential road

http://www.leeds.gov.uk/Transport_and_streets.aspx

Was the old light broken and they have upraded it?

parapaul

2,828 posts

84 months

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It would be your local Council for any other kind of light pollution, and I should imagine this falls in the same category.

BlueMR2

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6,267 posts

88 months

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Thanks for the replys. The light was fine before.

They have had poles up since before Christmas further down the road with no tops on so it is possible that they have been doing them and had some extra time to replace some of the others.

They will be using the new lights as an excuse to lower the limit shortly as well.

This is what the web site says.

website said:
18 The light is going to shine/is shining in my windows?

The new lanterns has much better optical control than the old ones. It takes time to adjust to a new night time environment and this issue tends to diminish with time. However, should the matter cause you concern then we can discuss the issue further.
I think that's code for f-off.

streaky

19,311 posts

135 months

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They've done the same around me. The new lights have greater back-scatter than those they replaced and the light has a somewhat acid-green tinge to it - which is unpleasant.

A crew came round and dropped off two four-foot-long barriers at each old light. The following day, another crew started cutting a square out of the pavement around the base of each light. A lorry with a crane on the back then pulled out the old lampost and planted a new one. This took around 20 minutes per light and blocked the road while it was happening [because they'd neglected to inform residents that the work was going to take place, so there were vehicles parked on both sides].

Two days later the holes and barriers are still there, no doubt waiting until after Easter before the "tarmac" crew arrives [perhaps they're doing a few drives over the holidays].

How long after that the barriers will be collected is a mystery [cones from resurfacing of some local roads are still piled up eight months after the job was finished, and barriers from a gas main replacement are still lying around after two months].

The new lights are lit 24/7. Those first replaced have now been shining for five days.

Why the lights needed replacing in these times of financial austerity is another mystery [except that it's the end of the financial year and it's 'use or lose' the budget]. I'm sure the Council will say the new lights are "greener" [the light certainly is], but I bet the "carbon footprint" hasn't been fully calculated and the cost-recovery time will be much longer than claimed.

Streaky
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jmorgan

20,595 posts

170 months

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I asked nicely and they fitted a blanking plate to prevent it shining in the house. Just need to ask nicely about the other one.

tenohfive

4,545 posts

68 months

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Just out of interest are these new lights of the sort designed to reduce light pollution? I seem to remember an article about how most old street lights put out an awful lot of light upwards (annoying astronomers) whilst also being fairly inefficient at lighting the area, and that new ones were available that were much more efficient on both fronts. IIRC there was quite a bit of support for the switch.

bryan35

1,846 posts

127 months

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We had new lamps installed about 2 years ago. They are much brighter than the old ones, and tehy do light the roads very well, and don't leak too much light into the sky. They are however a bit functional adn characterless. The old ones had a nice warm 'homely' feel about them, and added to the feel/look of the place, a bit like old red telephone kiosks.
A strip light would illuminate your front room much better and more efficiently than individual shaded lamps, but would you want that?

Kiltox

9,896 posts

44 months

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BlueMR2 said:
think that's code for f-off.
hehe

Saying that, I work for a council and residents complained about the lights in our car park being too bright - they're now partially disabled.

carmonk

7,910 posts

73 months

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I think they've done the same to the ones down the road (luckily not actually on our road as it's private). These lights have been shining brightly for the past month now. Not only was there no problem whatsoever before, they are now shining day and night. So that's someone's great idea of saving money - pay to fix things that don't need fixing and waste vast amounts of electricy into the bargain. No surprise that council tax has gone up again this year. They'd be better off actually picking up the litter in the area because there's a far greater risk of injury from tripping over a chav-discarded McDonald's box than stumbling because the surroundings are slightly shadowy. Morons.

tvrgit

8,177 posts

138 months

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Kiltox said:
hehe

Saying that, I work for a council and residents complained about the lights in our car park being too bright - they're now partially disabled.
What, you went round and knee-capped all the residents just for complaining?

fergywales

1,624 posts

80 months

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tvrgit said:
Kiltox said:
hehe

Saying that, I work for a council and residents complained about the lights in our car park being too bright - they're now partially disabled.
What, you went round and knee-capped all the residents just for complaining?
hehe

Kiltox

9,896 posts

44 months

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rofl!

Feel like doing so sometimes - like the c**t that moaned at me about his car being stuck in the snow as if it were my fault

Getragdogleg

4,590 posts

69 months

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Down here in the happy paradise of Penzance the street lights outside my house, and indeed surrounding area, had their heads swopped out for new ones.
The old light was sort of orange, the new light is white.

I find the new light is of a different wavelength and seems to be less intrusive than it was, it also pools at the bottom of the light pole and does not seem to scatter as far so you don't get the orange wash effect anymore.

In short I think I actually approve of something the Council have done for a change.

Oakey

16,646 posts

102 months

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tenohfive said:
Just out of interest are these new lights of the sort designed to reduce light pollution? I seem to remember an article about how most old street lights put out an awful lot of light upwards (annoying astronomers) whilst also being fairly inefficient at lighting the area, and that new ones were available that were much more efficient on both fronts. IIRC there was quite a bit of support for the switch.
They fitted new streetlights around here and they seemed to direct the light down on to the road extremely well whilst seemingly not projecting any light above ground floor windows (ie, the top half of houses they're in front of appear to be in the dark whilst the lower half is illuminated). They also appear to have strange little antennas on top of them.

GTIR

24,538 posts

152 months

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My chavvy neighbour has fitted aftermarket HID to the street light outside his house.


BlueMR2

Original Poster:

6,267 posts

88 months

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GTIR said:
My chavvy neighbour has fitted aftermarket HID to the street light outside his house.
biglaugh

I went to look at the old lamp that's been left and the new one.

Heres the old one, If you look it uses a large bulb (that has been left smashed by the path for little kiddies to play with) and it give out a smooth light over 180 degrees.

Looking at the new light it has a kind of bowl reflector with a bulb in.

The problem being the lamp is across the road and the light is so tall and directly opposite the house that you can clearly see the bulb whenever you look out of the window which is very bright compared to the more subdued bulb previously.

streaky

19,311 posts

135 months

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Oakey said:
They fitted new streetlights around here and they ... appear to have strange little antennas on top of them.
That's so the aliens know to talk to them, as they'll get more sense than they will from a government employee.

Streaky

streaky

19,311 posts

135 months

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Well, the 'tarmac crew' arrived yesterday. The barriers are still there, however ... except for eight that wandered off to for a square around a neighbour's car in his driveway, and one that climbed into a tree (probably to look out for the 'barrier removal crew').

The lights are still burning 24/7. The Highways department is not answering calls ... probably having taken 11 days off at the expense of only three 'holiday' days.

Streaky

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

120 months

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Open the door on the lamp post and remove the fuse. Big white thing, can't miss it.
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