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2,051 posts

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What is acceptable,( in the eyes of the Law,) with regard to putting 'security items' on the top of a fence. A fence that surrounds a domestic property, and is intended to stop the local youths climbing over to make a short cut across gardens and private land.

If barbed wire, (or similar), is fitted, is that legal, or can some youth take you to court if they get injured whislt climbing over the fence ??

I also thought about the burglar type paint that comes off the fence and end up all over your clothes.

Any advice or suggestions ??

ViperDave

3,534 posts

133 months

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I thick rambling rose with nice thorns climbing on a trellis that will break and land them on the yuccas in the border below. well that's what will greet anyone trying to climb over our back fence which runs along a road.

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The fence requires something that can be fitted to have immediate effect rather that let a thorny bush grow over a period of months/years.

Nice thought though.

JakesterUK

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I'm guessing this is a wooden fence, how tall is it and does it back onto a road/pavement (where someone innocently walking past could brush against).


breamster

291 posts

60 months

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A mate spread the dirtiest grease he could find over the top of his fences.

Not a physical deterrent as such but they local chavs soon stopped after getting their clothes covered in the stuff.


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Fence is 6 foot 6 inches high. It forms the boundry between the private land and a walkway thats for public use.

If some security items were fitted to the 'private' side of the fence, no members of the public could get harmed by them if they used the path as a throroughfare, as intended.

randlemarcus

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111 months

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bomb said:
Fence is 6 foot 6 inches high. It forms the boundry between the private land and a walkway thats for public use.

If some security items were fitted to the 'private' side of the fence, no members of the public could get harmed by them if they used the path as a throroughfare, as intended.
Not sure that works, in practice. If they get injured being scum, they will still sue.

I'd go with anti-vandal paint all over flimsy trellis (on top of the fence), and plant hawthorn and other spikey things on the public side.

j4ckos mate

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carpet gripper rods, hardly noticeable,

"oh, didnt know they were there, previous owner must have fitted them"

i wouldnt worry abouth the law, you have to do whats right to protect whats yours whilst at work

Buggles

1,355 posts

68 months

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I on the other hand would very much about the law, because the scumbags in this country WILL sue you at every opportunity whether they are on your property or not.

With regards to your question, what are you thinking of using?

I wouldn't use barbed wire/razor wire/concrete with smashed glass in or anything of that nature as there is potential for an intruder/trespasser to injure themselves quite seriously on it.

JakesterUK

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OK. so avoiding the obvious carpet runner, barbed wire, broken glass in cement options all of which if some scumbag injures themselves on WILL sue you.

I'd get a load of 6x1 or 6x2 trellis which you then paint in either anti vandal paint (but get quotes first as the paint can be very expensive) or a cheaper option would be really thick old engine oil or similar.

Oh and a beware of the dog sign on the fence never does any harm

JakesterUK

869 posts

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OK. so avoiding the obvious carpet runner, barbed wire, broken glass in cement options all of which if some scumbag injures themselves on WILL sue you.

I'd get a load of 6x1 or 6x2 trellis which you then paint in either anti vandal paint (but get quotes first as the paint can be very expensive) or a cheaper option would be really thick old engine oil or similar.

Oh and a beware of the dog sign on the fence never does any harm

ViperDave

3,534 posts

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bomb said:
The fence requires something that can be fitted to have immediate effect rather that let a thorny bush grow over a period of months/years.

Nice thought though.
Trellis 18" above the fence is instant and will make it hard to climb over, a yucca or other prickly bush in the landing zone can be instant also, the rose just makes it better over time and with the right one will be more viscous than barbed wire yet you cant be blamed for a rose having thorns.

Ricky_M

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99 months

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Google plastic fence spikes.

I had to climb over a customers wall when they forgot to leave us a key for the gate. They had these things on top off the wall and I can assure you they f***ing hurt, even when covering them with a thick hi-vis jacket!

Jimboka

3,248 posts

84 months

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I saw some anti-cat stuff in local Diy store that should do the job. It looks like carpet gripper but is all plastic & looks strong It will cause discomfort but not damage!

[beaten to it!]

Edited by Jimboka on Saturday 7th May 10:26

B17NNS

11,738 posts

127 months

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Dip some carpet gripper in AIDS and nail it on top.

Roger645

1,345 posts

127 months

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I have carpet gripper on mine, it prevents squirrels running along the fence as we had some squirrel problems a little while ago.

j4ckos mate

501 posts

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B17NNS said:
Dip some carpet gripper in AIDS and nail it on top.
or dip them in boiling water so they burn themselves!

bomb

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laugh

I like the 'boiling water' idea. Thats right up my street ( as in : my sense of humour).

The paint / Carpet gripper seems a good idea : To keep the squirres off, of course.;)

Thanks for the advice chaps...

Flintstone

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127 months

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I would strongly advise not fitting anything of a spikey nature. You WILL get grief when someone, who we know shouldn't be there, climbs your fence and receives a surprise course of acupuncture.

Go for the grease or anti-climb paint. It will have the same effect without comebacks.

GuinnessMK

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Ricky_M said:

Google plastic fence spikes.

I had to climb over a customers wall when they forgot to leave us a key for the gate. They had these things on top off the wall and I can assure you they f***ing hurt, even when covering them with a thick hi-vis jacket!
Another vote for these. We've got them fitted to the top of our fence, and even the cat doesn't walk along the top of the fence anymore!

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