With its gaudy 'look at me' paint and styling cues, it's hard to picture the DC100 Sport in any other environment than 'Muscle Beach', but Land Rover reckons the concept will also appeal to pukka surfer types and the like. They say the Sport model takes its cues from the early canvas roofed Defenders, 're-imagined as a performance concept for the 21st Century.
Thus the car features 'a wrap-around aero screen and cut-down side windows for exhilarating open air motoring', but the next bit of the press release made us read it twice to make sure we weren't looking at the brochure for a special type of gentleman's sauna: 'Flowing back from the seats is a twin-humped fastback roofline that encloses a generous load bed which incorporates fittings specifically designed to secure extreme sports equipment.'
Well, that says it all, really. Although a bit of us secretly quite likes it... oo-er!
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Well done Mr Mcgovern. You have managed to do a st styling job on a car that should'nt have any styling. Another blinder.
300bhp/ton17 Sep 2011
The "loss" of articulation has nothing to do with the fact a IRS system has replaced a beam axle. In fact, the "pure" moment of an IRS system actually could provide more cross axle performance than a beam axle (because the typical beam axle location systems actually result in the beam itself becoming an antiroll bar in extremis)
The reason IRS cars don't generally articulate as much as beam axled ones is purely down to the spring rates and anti roll rates used. Manufacturers fit IRS to improve road manners, and as a result the car is more road biased, and has stiffer springs and much much high roll stiffness!.
The reason thid defender can do this:
is due to the long, soft springs and soft axle location bushing, rather than because it has a beam axle ;-)
The only true downside to IRS cars is that ground clearance varries with payload, whereas on a beam axle the diff is ALWAYS the lowest part. But if your IRS starts with more clearance than the beam axle then i hardly see the issue.
The other fact is that "extreme" axle articulation is really only useful when you haven't got cross axle diff locks (like the defender...... ;-) Even with 5feet of axle twist, how much weight do you think is actually pressing down on the lower tyre? Not a lot is the answer, in fact, it gets to the point where the only thing keeping the wheel down is the weight of the wheel and tyre/hub. Which on a ground with a friction co-efficient of say 0.2, means it's contribution to forward motion is practically zero.
These days, with lockers (true mechanical or electrically simulated), even vehicles with literally no articulation can get places:
The advantage of the air suspension and active ARB's on the latest Disco/RR is that you don't have to compromise as much on your on-road/off-road capabilites. If the new defender is steel sprung and passively ARB'd, then i think it is safe to say we would expect to see a reduction in cross axle performance in line with it's improved road handling. (although if they add diff locks that's fine by me ;-)
You should go and try some proper rock crawling.... you might then see how much of your post is wrong
SuperHangOn17 Sep 2011
Refinement has nothing to do with the axles, a p38a was very refined and comfy yet had live axles.
I looked at a P38 with a coil spring conversion (to replace faulty air suspension), the ride was sublime.
They might as well launch an off road Discovery model with unpainted trim and simplified spec as a complex Defender.
LukeSi17 Sep 2011
Am I the only one who would be tempted to go and put some weight on the back right of the car so it tipped down quite hard?
was8v17 Sep 2011
I'm really looking forward to a new defender, based on D3 underpinnings with less of a road bias. I think it will beat the current model offroad (even with the TCS switched off) and on. They WILL make the plastics out of a decent material and it will withstand hard use.
Off topic I think land rover missed a big trick not giving the public the P38 based 100 inch Wolf-spec Defender! Would have made great interim car.