Would the real Type R please stand up

The new Civic Type R
The new Civic Type R
This is the Civic Type R as the Japanese will know it. Unlike ‘our’ new Civic Type R hatchback – largely developed in Europe and built in the UK - it’s based on the saloon version of the current Civic available in Japan, the USA and also as the Civic Hybrid model in the UK. It goes on sale in Japan this Friday (30th March).

Predictably, engine outputs are a little higher than its European cousin, with 222bhp being developed at 8,000rpm and 159lb ft of torque peaking at 6,100rpm (the euro Type R makes 198bhp at 7,800rpm and 142lb ft at 5,600rpm). Drive

Based on Civic Saloon
Based on Civic Saloon
is fed through a close ratio six speed gearbox, and a limited slip differential is fitted as standard. To cope with the demands of track work, the front brake discs are 17 inches in diameter with four pot Brembo callipers and the car runs on 225/40 R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE070 tyres. A Type R aero kit and trademark black and red bucket seats help lift the usually rather staid Civic saloon appearance.

Honda claims the body is 50% more rigid than the previous Japan-only Integra Type R, and

Very Type R
Very Type R
crucially, this saloon Type R retains the traditional Honda independent rear suspension abandoned for a torsion beam set up on the latest European Civic Type R.

The Euro Type R has massively split opinion in the UK motoring press.  Is this the car we really want?

You should see my rear axle...
You should see my rear axle...

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  • pbirkett 14 May 2007

    PJ S said:
    pbirkett said:
    Mark-t said:
    Check out this months Evo (page 28/9). It says Litchfield imports are selling these.
    Priced from £22,995 bounce


    Thing is I'm sure I read somewhere that the price in Japan for their CTR works out at something like £2 - £3k cheaper than ours.... something like £12k, so whats the other £10k for?


    £2-3K = £12K?
    Isn't our CTR £18K, so that makes it £15-16K, leaving £7K for shipping, import duties, SVA, and profit.


    www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/208477/honda_civic.html

    Auto Express said:
    What’s more, the current exchange rate makes this Type R sound ridiculously cheap – the £11,900 price tag undercuts the inferior UK model by a massive £5,715. With limited sales of only 400 a month in Japan, one thing’s for sure: it might not look as cool as its British sibling, but it’s set to be even more desirable.


    £10k+ extra to me still sounds steep, dont you think?

  • PJ S 10 May 2007

    pbirkett said:
    Mark-t said:
    Check out this months Evo (page 28/9). It says Litchfield imports are selling these.
    Priced from £22,995 bounce


    Thing is I'm sure I read somewhere that the price in Japan for their CTR works out at something like £2 - £3k cheaper than ours.... something like £12k, so whats the other £10k for?


    £2-3K = £12K?
    Isn't our CTR £18K, so that makes it £15-16K, leaving £7K for shipping, import duties, SVA, and profit.

  • mark-t 10 May 2007

    pbirkett said:
    Mark-t said:
    Check out this months Evo (page 28/9). It says Litchfield imports are selling these.
    Priced from £22,995 bounce


    Thing is I'm sure I read somewhere that the price in Japan for their CTR works out at something like £2 - £3k cheaper than ours.... something like £12k, so whats the other £10k for?


    Fuel for the ferry - lol. You've got a point there! Maybe 2 or 3k but ten is taking the pee!

  • pbirkett 09 May 2007

    Mark-t said:
    Check out this months Evo (page 28/9). It says Litchfield imports are selling these.
    Priced from £22,995 bounce


    Thing is I'm sure I read somewhere that the price in Japan for their CTR works out at something like £2 - £3k cheaper than ours.... something like £12k, so whats the other £10k for?

  • V-TECJUNKIE 08 May 2007

    *returns to keyboard in a huff*

    That is some sick spec and when I said it is tough I meant it will no doubt live up to the p'mance rep set of by other type r's......

    I think it is ugly though, I think most new hondas are ugly....Just to clear that up


    Edited by V-TECJUNKIE on Tuesday 8th May 19:57

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